g] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:36 PM
To: tos@teachingopensource.org
Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 09:40:22AM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> Now that several people have volunteered the information that they
&
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 09:40:22AM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> Now that several people have volunteered the information that they
> will be using the textbook and providing comments, should we be
> recording their generosity in
> http://teachingopensource.org/inde
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 04:49:59PM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> 2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
>
> >
> > I'll note that the content from the wiki does end up in DocBook XML in
> > a git source code repository, and we could switch to that as the
> > ups
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:22:36AM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> Thank you for the discussion of wiki style versus source code style
> version control. I need to let your thoughts and mine simmer together
> before I consider broaching the subject again. I'm sure i
Thank you for the discussion of wiki style versus source code style
version control. I need to let your thoughts and mine simmer together
before I consider broaching the subject again. I'm sure in the
process of fleshing out https://www.theopensourceway.org/ you'll
consider my words.
In the mean
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 02:42:10PM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> Comments inline:
>
> 2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
> >
> > * There are ways with wiki tools to get more of what you are looking
> > for.
> >
>
> Since the wiki based processes are not e
Now that several people have volunteered the information that they
will be using the textbook and providing comments, should we be
recording their generosity in
http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Practical_OSS_Exploration_textbook_0.8.1_planning
?
I also suggest they be given credit in the re
gt;> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:15 PM
>> To: tos@teachingopensource.org
>> Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:52:29PM -0400, Heidi Ellis wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I'll be using the textbook in the fall and I'
5:15 PM
> To: tos@teachingopensource.org
> Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:52:29PM -0400, Heidi Ellis wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I'll be using the textbook in the fall and I'd be happy to provide
> > feedback and upda
2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
>
> I'll note that the content from the wiki does end up in DocBook XML in
> a git source code repository, and we could switch to that as the
> upstream source (instead of interim format) for the textbook.
> However, my experience and learned evidence is
Comments inline:
2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:05:57PM -0400, Matthew Jadud wrote:
>> 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade :
>> > Thoughts?
>>
>> My biggest concerns, when editing version 0.8, were that:
>>
>>
>>
>> I remain concerned about the authoring environment --
-
From: tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org
[mailto:tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:37 PM
To: tos@teachingopensource.org
Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
* There are ways with wiki tools to get more of what you are looking
for.
* By reviewed
Thanks! We'll do our best :-)
Heidi
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From: tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org
[mailto:tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:15 PM
To: tos@teachingopensource.org
Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
On Tue, A
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:22:25AM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
> >
http://www.teachingopensource.org/index.php/Practical_OSS_Exploration_textbook_0.8.1_planning
> >
> > Some more materials landing there later from our Ethe
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:52:29PM -0400, Heidi Ellis wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'll be using the textbook in the fall and I'd be happy to provide feedback
> and update as I can, but I'm not likely to have much time to devote to
> actually writing.
That's a very valuable contribution, Heidi, thanks
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 08:48:01AM -0400,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> This sounds like the right step towards solving what I was concerned
> about. I could copy a page to my own part of the wiki space, make
> edits, and offer them up for discussion. Sadly, you don't ge
Hi Karsten,
2010/8/17 Karsten Wade :
> * There are ways with wiki tools to get more of what you are looking
> for.
Just a quick reply (and, possibly, all that's needed): this thread
helped me better understand how to use the tools. My complaints
weren't so much about the tools (eg. "Down with wi
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:37:09PM -0700,
tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
> I'm looking for other people to express their opinions of the efficacy
> of using a wiki to create a book. I agree with Matthew, there is a
> need for controlled branching so there is an ability to ca
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:05:57PM -0400, Matthew Jadud wrote:
> 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade :
> > Thoughts?
>
> My biggest concerns, when editing version 0.8, were that:
>
> 1. Each chapter clearly had a different "voice," and it was annoying
> to me as a reader. At some point, it seems that someone
2010/8/16 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com:
> http://www.teachingopensource.org/index.php/Practical_OSS_Exploration_textbook_0.8.1_planning
>
> Some more materials landing there later from our EtherPad work today.
EtherPad?
The only mention of EtherPad on teachingopensource.org is in
http://teachi
gopensource.org] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 5:51 PM
To: tos@teachingopensource.org
Subject: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1
The time is a bit past for me to have said, "Does anyone want to drive
making the next version of the textbook happen? If not, I'll do it."
So
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 23:37,
wrote:
> As I tried to indicate, this is not meant to be insulting, just to
> illustrate that a wiki is not an irrevocably single stream of edits.
No insult taken! I freely admit my lack of wiki mastery.
> User:Jadudm/Textbook/Forward/3605. All of this, of course,
I'm looking for other people to express their opinions of the efficacy
of using a wiki to create a book. I agree with Matthew, there is a
need for controlled branching so there is an ability to carefully
discuss alternative contributions.
Just to make sure you know what little I know about wikis,
2010/8/16 Karsten Wade :
> Thoughts?
My biggest concerns, when editing version 0.8, were that:
1. Each chapter clearly had a different "voice," and it was annoying
to me as a reader. At some point, it seems that someone should do a
pass through the book and unify the voice.
2. I felt much of the
The time is a bit past for me to have said, "Does anyone want to drive
making the next version of the textbook happen? If not, I'll do it."
So, consider that question asked. Honestly, since it was clear Greg
couldn't do this next version, I just figured I'd be doing it. Sorry
that I just procee
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