[TOS] NY State & Open Source & Open Government camp

2010-08-17 Thread Luis Ibanez
This is laterally related to Teaching-Open-Source, in the sense that it is a good example to show students that open source is contributing solutions to government challenges: http://capitolcampdev.eventbrite.com/?utm_source=eb_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=event_reminder&utm_term=event_tit

Re: [TOS] Wiki SPAM

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:21:25AM -0700, tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote: > What is the Teaching Open Source policy concerning Unsolicited > Commercial Email, also known as SPAM? What are we doing to attempt to > control it? > > I've found some apparent Search Engine Optimiz

Re: [TOS] Wiki SPAM

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 01:56:11PM -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote: > > If anyone has better solutions I am all ears. :) Nothing better, just an experience to speak of. Fedora's system works because it does prove someone is a human but does require either removal of anonymity or lying. What I use on

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Gregory Hislop
Hi Karsten, Ditto for me on using the book. I'll be using it with students at Drexel. Greg Hislop > -Original Message- > From: tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org [mailto:tos- > boun...@teachingopensource.org] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:15 PM > To: tos@t

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread tosmaillist . neophyte_rep
2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com: > > I'll note that the content from the wiki does end up in DocBook XML in > a git source code repository, and we could switch to that as the > upstream source (instead of interim format) for the textbook. > However, my experience and learned evidence is

Re: [TOS] Call for Resources and Suggestions

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 07:59:27PM -0400, Charles Profitt wrote: > Hello all: > > I recently got news that I have been approved for an eight hour hands-on > session > at NYSCATE. I will be 'introducing' FOSS to K-12 educators and though I have > a > rough draft of what I want to do I thought

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread tosmaillist . neophyte_rep
Comments inline: 2010/8/17 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:05:57PM -0400, Matthew Jadud wrote: >> 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade : >> > Thoughts? >> >> My biggest concerns, when editing version 0.8, were that: >> >> >> >> I remain concerned about the authoring environment --

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Sabin, Mihaela
I'll be using wikis in my classes in fall with two objectives in mind: 1. Support, encourage, and demonstrate collaborative learning 2. Integrate means of assessment in wiki-based writing and contributions. The TOS textbook project will be very useful in teaching me how collaboration and attribu

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Heidi Ellis
Thanks! We'll do our best :-) Heidi -Original Message- From: tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org [mailto:tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org] On Behalf Of Karsten Wade Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:15 PM To: tos@teachingopensource.org Subject: Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1 On Tue, Aug 17, 201

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:22:25AM -0700, tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote: > 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com: > > http://www.teachingopensource.org/index.php/Practical_OSS_Exploration_textbook_0.8.1_planning > > > > Some more materials landing there later from our Ethe

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:52:29PM -0400, Heidi Ellis wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'll be using the textbook in the fall and I'd be happy to provide feedback > and update as I can, but I'm not likely to have much time to devote to > actually writing. That's a very valuable contribution, Heidi, thanks

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 08:48:01AM -0400, tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote: > This sounds like the right step towards solving what I was concerned > about. I could copy a page to my own part of the wiki space, make > edits, and offer them up for discussion. Sadly, you don't ge

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Matthew Jadud
Hi Karsten, 2010/8/17 Karsten Wade : > * There are ways with wiki tools to get more of what you are looking >  for. Just a quick reply (and, possibly, all that's needed): this thread helped me better understand how to use the tools. My complaints weren't so much about the tools (eg. "Down with wi

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:37:09PM -0700, tosmaillist.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote: > I'm looking for other people to express their opinions of the efficacy > of using a wiki to create a book. I agree with Matthew, there is a > need for controlled branching so there is an ability to ca

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Karsten Wade
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:05:57PM -0400, Matthew Jadud wrote: > 2010/8/16 Karsten Wade : > > Thoughts? > > My biggest concerns, when editing version 0.8, were that: > > 1. Each chapter clearly had a different "voice," and it was annoying > to me as a reader. At some point, it seems that someone

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread tosmaillist . neophyte_rep
2010/8/16 Karsten Wade - kw...@redhat.com: > http://www.teachingopensource.org/index.php/Practical_OSS_Exploration_textbook_0.8.1_planning > > Some more materials landing there later from our EtherPad work today. EtherPad? The only mention of EtherPad on teachingopensource.org is in http://teachi

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread Heidi Ellis
Hi Folks, I'll be using the textbook in the fall and I'd be happy to provide feedback and update as I can, but I'm not likely to have much time to devote to actually writing. Heidi -Original Message- From: tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org [mailto:tos-boun...@teachingopensource.org] On

Re: [TOS] textbook 0.8.1

2010-08-17 Thread tosmaillist . neophyte_rep
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 23:37, wrote: > As I tried to indicate, this is not meant to be insulting, just to > illustrate that a wiki is not an irrevocably single stream of edits. No insult taken! I freely admit my lack of wiki mastery. > User:Jadudm/Textbook/Forward/3605.  All of this, of course,