Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-29 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Yawning Angel wrote: > Like I noted in my reply to Paul S. if there was a way to > measure/quantify trust, or deal with the "people's Guards just I'd agree that randomly handing off nodes is bad. And that there may be cases where structured handoff among operators

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-29 Thread Yawning Angel
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 18:03:31 +0500 Roman Mamedov wrote: > I have decided to spin up some more servers, and this should postpone > the need to turn off any of the relays by at least 3 weeks (at the > cost of an increased burn-rate, i.e. now they all will expire sooner > and "all at once"). Ok. Ha

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-29 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 05:32:17 +0500 Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:47:23 + > isis wrote: > > > I could take those backdoored^W"pre-warmed" keys and put them to good use! > > Mkay, I'll get in touch in a few days. Hello, I have decided to spin up some more servers, and this

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-27 Thread Yawning Angel
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:14:00 -0400 Paul Syverson wrote: > I've been following this thread but haven't had time (and won't for > several days at least) to formulate a thorough thoughtful response, > but your statements are too absolute and without qualification. I used strong wording because there

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Syverson
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 08:41:13AM +, Yawning Angel wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 07:13:44 +0500 > Roman Mamedov wrote: > > Either way you won't do much damage even if any of this ends up being > > false, as the consensus weight and the stable status will drop more > > rapidly than they are gat

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-26 Thread nusenu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > What was knee-jerk about my response? I found it also unnecessarily sharp, maybe because I assumed no malicious intent and I don't believe malicious actors depend on such 'pre-warmed' key offers anyway. > The relay identity key is sensitive crypt

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-26 Thread Yawning Angel
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 07:13:44 +0500 Roman Mamedov wrote: > Either way you won't do much damage even if any of this ends up being > false, as the consensus weight and the stable status will drop more > rapidly than they are gathered if your node can't maintain them. Giving away the identity keys fo

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Kurt Besig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/25/2015 7:13 PM, Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 01:35:10 + Yawning Angel > wrote: > >> The relay identity key is sensitive cryptographic material. >> Sharing it means the private key is compromised and is an attempt >> to subvert

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 01:35:10 + Yawning Angel wrote: > The relay identity key is sensitive cryptographic material. Sharing it > means the private key is compromised and is an attempt to subvert: > * The bandwidth scanning process. The consensus weight is the relay's >capacity relative

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Yawning Angel
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 05:32:17 +0500 Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:47:23 + > isis wrote: > > > I could take those backdoored^W"pre-warmed" keys and put them to > > good use! > > Hello, > > Mkay, I'll get in touch in a few days. > > As for other repliers, I would not mind ex

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:47:23 + isis wrote: > I could take those backdoored^W"pre-warmed" keys and put them to good use! Hello, Mkay, I'll get in touch in a few days. As for other repliers, I would not mind explaining my reasoning in more detail, if you have any specific questions or more a

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Toralf Förster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/25/2015 08:40 PM, Roman Mamedov wrote: > Hello, > > If anyone is planning to spin up a new VM or dedi to run a Tor relay and want > it to be put instantly into good use (without wasting couple of weeks to a > month for the whole "unmeasured re

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread isis
Roman Mamedov transcribed 3.6K bytes: > Hello, > > If anyone is planning to spin up a new VM or dedi to run a Tor relay and want > it to be put instantly into good use (without wasting couple of weeks to a > month for the whole "unmeasured relay/measured/guard/stable" cycle to > complete) or if yo

Re: [tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Yawning Angel
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 23:40:10 +0500 Roman Mamedov wrote: > If anyone is planning to spin up a new VM or dedi to run a Tor relay > and want it to be put instantly into good use (without wasting couple > of weeks to a month for the whole "unmeasured > relay/measured/guard/stable" cycle to complete) o

[tor-relays] Giving away some "pre-warmed" relay keys for adoption

2015-07-25 Thread Roman Mamedov
Hello, If anyone is planning to spin up a new VM or dedi to run a Tor relay and want it to be put instantly into good use (without wasting couple of weeks to a month for the whole "unmeasured relay/measured/guard/stable" cycle to complete) or if you are having trouble with your current relay being