Re: [topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
ahh the typecast! ___ kind regards *Rob Atkinson* Lead Ontologist, Knowledge Architect at SURROUND Australia Pty Ltd Address Level 9, Nishi Building, 2 Phillip Law Street; New Acton Canberra Australia 2601 Phone + <http://++61+466+491+

Re: [topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
://www.topquadrant.com/doc/7.2/scripting/introduction.html#shape-scripts > > Holger > > > On 2022-05-11 11:09 am, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > ahh - its dash:shapeScript - but requires a different syntax - maybe thats > what it is hiding as an error when run as a resource script... >

Re: [topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
ahh - its dash:shapeScript - but requires a different syntax - maybe thats what it is hiding as an error when run as a resource script... On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:05:35 AM UTC+10 Rob Atkinson wrote: > oops - obviously dash:ShapeScript is a type not a predicate - i've got

Re: [topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
oops - obviously dash:ShapeScript is a type not a predicate - i've got myself mixed up here... how do you attach to the nodeshape? The predicate isnt in the docs AFAICT On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 10:39:53 AM UTC+10 Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Am not using the focus node - as its a

Re: [topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
Knublauch wrote: > > On 2022-05-11 9:56 am, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > HI I have a script that behaves as expected in the script editor but > > when run as a resource action behaves differently. > > > > two things > > > > - a script that extracts some

[topbraid-users] ADS script editor vs action runtime differences and debugging

2022-05-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
HI I have a script that behaves as expected in the script editor but when run as a resource action behaves differently. two things - a script that extracts some data from an asset collection and then inserts it into a different asset collection works from the script editor, but when run as a

Re: [topbraid-users] ADS insert to named graphs

2022-05-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
itting the transaction. > > Prior to 7.1 graph.withDataGraph *probably* worked somehow, but that would > be a hack and wouldn't properly support transactions etc. > > Holger > > > On 2022-05-09 4:57 pm, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Hi > > trying to find example

[topbraid-users] ADS insert to named graphs

2022-05-08 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi trying to find examples to understand options for inserting into a named graph.. I have a situation where I need to process a graph and send data to multiple related graphs ADS offers me the "withDataGraph" that calls a function with no parameters... seems like it might be relevant to use

Re: [topbraid-users] invoking EDG services (such as publish to Explorer) within ADS

2022-05-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
ation sometimes to work out what form things are in sometimes and the hidden assumptions about import closures. ___ kind regards *Rob Atkinson* Lead Ontologist, Knowledge Architect at SURROUND Australia Pty Ltd Address Level 9, Nishi Building, 2 Philli

Re: [topbraid-users] invoking EDG services (such as publish to Explorer) within ADS

2022-05-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
d theoretically use to create > a clone which you later tbs.deleteAssetCollection(). > > On 2022-05-02 3:22 pm, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > hi > > havent been able to find in the docs or examples, but suspect I may be > missing something. > > I have a DataGraph I want to publish to two

[topbraid-users] invoking EDG services (such as publish to Explorer) within ADS

2022-05-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
hi havent been able to find in the docs or examples, but suspect I may be missing something. I have a DataGraph I want to publish to two different explorer instances - but with different data in each. Some other things may happen - custom review steps - so its going to be in ADS. So I need

Re: [topbraid-users] Transform ontology to json schema?

2022-04-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
FWIW this is an area of research I am embarking on in my role with the Open Geospatial Consortium - specifically looking at support for modularised data models via OGC APIs - currently defined around JSON schema, but I am hoping to find workable patterns and tooling to support an uplift to JSON-LD.

Re: [topbraid-users] owl2shacl

2022-04-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
ave a specific metadata annotation in mind so that we can clarify > this, i.e. what license would you suggest for such things? > > Note this rule does NOT apply to all ontologies bundled with TopBraid. > > Holger > > > On 2022-04-04 3:07 pm, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Hi > >

Re: [topbraid-users] owl2shacl

2022-04-03 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi can anyone in TQ shed any light on the copyright status of the owl2shacl rules - there is no metadata in the file and this is posted on a public access forum, so is there any impediment to utilising it in an open source project? cheers On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 12:05, Holger Knublauch wrote: >

Re: [topbraid-users] Properties shapes in ReadOnly (instances) and not displayed on classes.

2021-11-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
A related perspective following a test-driven design philosophy, ontology development requires instance data for testing, and best practices for documentation require illustrative examples. Thus while editing example instances in a separate graph we want to be able to attach these to the Classes.

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL errors validation report fails

2021-11-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
ahh - so I was mainly looking for way to set this as a global default? On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 10:50, Holger Knublauch wrote: > Ah sorry I wasn't clear, but those settings are in drop down of the upper > right corner of the Problems & Suggestions panel. > > HTH > Holger > > > On 2021-11-25 7:36 a

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Add metadata to class attribute

2021-11-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
True - but a) his business problem appears to be metadata about observations and how to group these without ugly naming conventions b) I postulated a possible equivalence between the SOSA model and reification I was wondering if subproperty declarations would allow EDG to absorb observations data

Re: [topbraid-users] Uploading images in EDG workflows

2021-08-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
OK - ta. Thought I'd check before doing anything else. On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 09:07, Holger Knublauch wrote: > I am not aware of such an upload widget. It would need to be somehow > configured to know where to send the images to, and then produce a URL > (e.g. xsd:anyURI literal). Viewing such i

Re: [topbraid-users] linking images

2021-07-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
t; <http://www.tno.nl/> > <http://www.tno.nl/> > > This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you > are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you > are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. TNO accep

Re: [topbraid-users] linking images

2021-07-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
I have had the same requirement - I added a new property "explanatory image" - and also "canonicalExample" for RDF instances matching the model and "implementationExample" for implementations of the model in other forms (such as XML) We are using asciidocs and pyLode to generate documentation auto

Re: [topbraid-users] Accessing an EDG SPARQL endpoint from within another EDG instance..

2021-07-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
. what the remote server response is. > > Holger > > > On 2021-07-16 11:55 am, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > That makes sense - but didnt work when I tried it :-( > Double checked it. > > We can access the SPARQL endpoint from other locations via scripts, so > shouldnt be a m

Re: [topbraid-users] Accessing an EDG SPARQL endpoint from within another EDG instance..

2021-07-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
That makes sense - but didnt work when I tried it :-( Double checked it. We can access the SPARQL endpoint from other locations via scripts, so shouldnt be a more systemic access problem. On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 09:17, Holger Knublauch wrote: > Hi Rob, > > sorry for the delay as I had to ask a

Re: [topbraid-users] Content tag set - tag display fails

2021-05-26 Thread Rob Atkinson
The JS code is for Tag panel - its not customised... On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 12:52, Holger Knublauch wrote: > > On 2021-05-27 12:38 pm, robatki...@gmail.com wrote: > > The JS for the tag display pane calls the endpoint - the latest error isnt > call the function anymore on v7 - but is still the s

Re: [topbraid-users] Map integration

2021-05-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
thanks > > > 1) centering on a selected element only works if the element is > > already visible and you click on it in the map > No this should always work. I just tried with the Geography Taxonomy, > e.g. clicking on Armenia from the default view in Europe. It "went > there". Are you not seeing

Re: [topbraid-users] inheriting dash viewer and other properties from superclass shapes

2021-05-05 Thread Rob Atkinson
solved - it didnt like mix of class=NodeShape and sh:targetShape but once I forced the parent shape onto the class things worked as expected. (is there a place in the doco where this is explained? - havent found one yet) On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 14:36, Rob Atkinson wrote: > Thanks Irene - I

Re: [topbraid-users] inheriting dash viewer and other properties from superclass shapes

2021-05-04 Thread Rob Atkinson
Thanks Irene - I'll review with that info and see if I can resolve things On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 13:41, Irene Polikoff wrote: > I don’t quite understand your model, but may be the following will help: > > 1. If you have a NodeShape that is not a class, but targets a class, it is > considered an a

Re: [topbraid-users] Avoid tripping over JSONLD serialisations co-existing with TTL

2021-03-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
OK - thanks for the warning. You might want to consider the issue of deploying a project with resources that you dont want to introspect over automatically then :-) On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 16:48, Holger Knublauch wrote: > You cannot rely on Eclipse for this moving forward. EDG (server-side) will

Re: [topbraid-users] Avoid tripping over JSONLD serialisations co-existing with TTL

2021-03-17 Thread Rob Atkinson
is this an eclipse thing? is there perhaps some blacklist strategy possible like .gitignore On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 15:56, Holger Knublauch wrote: > I cannot think of a solution for that. There is no way to deactivate > certain file types. > > Holger > > > On 2021-03-18 2:44 pm, robatki...@gm

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
sorry gmail seems to have killed that screenshot .. grrr On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:18:04 PM UTC+10 Rob Atkinson wrote: > spoke too soon - here is an example showing the shape, the existence of > labels, and the failure to show the label in the Tag search form. > in addition,

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
ustralia.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Holger > >>> > >>> A simple use case of viewing corpus topics is if the tagset is > imported into a datagraph. How are the values of the content and > corresponding tag shown on a form. > >>&g

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
ent1. How can the above corpus:topic triples be used to generate an >> inference in a form to list all existing tags for Concent1 (e.g. content A >> and B) ? >> >> The only way I've been able to do this is to construct new instances of a >> class with new prop

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-13 Thread Rob Atkinson
uch wrote: > Is topic an object property shape or a literal-valued one? (Can you show > the shape declarations). > > Holger > > > On 2/07/2020 5:32 pm, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > { > clauseSections(where: { > topic:

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
ame='pattern', value=StringValue{value='ID4'}}]}}]}}]}}]}' contains a field not in 'ClauseSection_where_topic': 'exists'", "locations": [ { "line": 2, "column": 18 } ] }

[topbraid-users] GraphQL query for ContentTagSets

2020-07-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
After some fiddling I can return data from a content tag set with a query like this { clauseSections(where: {rdfs_label: {pattern: "def"} } ) { rdfs_label topic { label } uri } } This successfully returns details from the linked topic. But I cant get a query to wo

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query against imported ontology

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
itHub site at > https://github.com/qudt/qudt-public-repo > > Steve Ray > qudt.org > > > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:10 AM Rob Atkinson < > rob.at...@surroundaustralia.com> wrote: > >> >> yep fixing the namespaces in the original data f

[topbraid-users] Re: Capturing and viewing metadata about EDG tags in tagsets

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
To add to and refocus this issue: 1) We can extract tag triples from reified and qualified tagging data - but its not obvious whats the best way to make the annotations on reified statements visible in EDG - brute force via a DataGraph or custom SWP are possible, but maybe there is some though

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query against imported ontology

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
yep fixing the namespaces in the original data files fixes it - but you have to perform quite a few gymnastics before everything is lined up :-) On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:52:08 PM UTC+10 Rob Atkinson wrote: > hmm units uses: > a <http://qudt.org/schema/qudt#ElectricCurrentUnit&

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query against imported ontology

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
t 5:31:23 PM UTC+10 Rob Atkinson wrote: > > not sure what ttl to send - the file is > TopBraid/LinkedModels/unit-v1.0.ttl and ?I just want to know how to expose > that via GraphQL - or confirm that it cannot be done for some reasone > > If I create an ontology, then exe

Re: [topbraid-users] GraphQL query against imported ontology

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
find out why... On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:08:10 PM UTC+10 Holger Knublauch wrote: > Hi Rob, > > is the Unit class also instance of sh:NodeShape? > > Feel free to send me what you have as a TTL file and I can take a look. > > Holger > > > On 30/06/2020 17:03, Rob

[topbraid-users] GraphQL query against imported ontology

2020-06-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
I have tried to make the QUDT units ontology (pre-loaded) accessible via GraphQL and failed... If I include it into a empty data graph I can traverse and inspect all the contents... I can set the search root to be, for example Unit I then add statements like this to the graph root object..

[topbraid-users] Re: managing local resources (new resources created in EDG) in a proxied EDG asset - writing new resources created in a proxied graph back to a local file or the original proxied sour

2020-06-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
Probably what is require is a means to interact directly with GIT from EDG, mirroring the equivalent capability in TBC via the ECLIPSE/GIT integration. Custom code to write to EDG Asset collections can be written - provided the change detection logic is good enough - but it still doesnt make

[topbraid-users] Re: Loading XML file into semantic xml taking hours

2020-06-18 Thread Rob Atkinson
I'm not sure about whether it will work or not, but a warning that AFAIK if you leave an xml file in an open project in a workspace it is parsed on TBC startup - and this can take a long time too. It may only apply to XSD files, life is too short to check this On Friday, 19 June 2020 12:48:

Re: [topbraid-users] Processing a JSON file

2020-06-09 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 for an option to pre-process JSON. In particular it would be good to be able to attach JSON-LD context files to control the mapping of element to RDF nodes. On Tuesday, 9 June 2020 04:45:19 UTC+10, Tim Smith wrote: > > One thought - can you pre-process the JSON as text? I noticed you are >

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-26 Thread Rob Atkinson
? On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:22, Holger Knublauch wrote: > See \server.topbraidlive.org\system-applications\tbladmin\tbladmin.ui.ttlx: > tbladmin:TextIndicesPage: > > > > There is no way to only rebuild individual graphs. > > Holger > > > On 26/05/2020 18:34, Rob

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-26 Thread Rob Atkinson
17:31, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > So I still need to work out why in some cases we can search included > content, and other we cant. > > On the same machine, same initialisation script, same version of EDG we > have workspaces where it works and where it doesnt - an we cant wo

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-26 Thread Rob Atkinson
g of content in the included graph for local search. It seems reasonable we might need to trigger something on data setup, but cant see what it is. On Tuesday, 26 May 2020 15:32:09 UTC+10, Richard Cyganiak wrote: > > > On 26 May 2020, at 04:43, Rob Atkinson > > wrote: > > OK -

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
20 10:28:58 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > > On Friday, 22 May 2020 05:29:20 UTC+10, Richard Cyganiak wrote: >> >> >> >> > On 21 May 2020, at 07:00, Rob Atkinson wrote: >> > >> > tested this on a colleagues machine using the exact same

Re: [topbraid-users] Search the EDG in localhost 6.3.2 - using Lucene on local machine or does it require TBL server ? and how may Lucene be configured ?

2020-05-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
potential additional data separate (segmented A-box union graphs) whilst retaining search capability. On Tuesday, 26 May 2020 10:50:06 UTC+10, Irene Polikoff wrote: > > Please see below > > On May 25, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > >> Yes, it runs on local

Re: [topbraid-users] Search the EDG in localhost 6.3.2 - using Lucene on local machine or does it require TBL server ? and how may Lucene be configured ?

2020-05-25 Thread Rob Atkinson
> > > Yes, it runs on local host. > > I can’t reproduce your issues. > > One possibility is that you have no data in the asset collections you set > to be indexed. From Rob’s e-mails, I know that he uses files and asset > collections in EDG are simply “wrappers” for these files. If you are > fo

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
On Friday, 22 May 2020 05:29:20 UTC+10, Richard Cyganiak wrote: > > > > > On 21 May 2020, at 07:00, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > > tested this on a colleagues machine using the exact same version and > build of TBC, and the search works fine out of the box. I

Re: [topbraid-users] Creating SHACL shapes from OWL

2020-05-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
t to generate shapes from >> > > You do not need to include the OWL2SHAL rules in the EDG ontology. This > service already knows what to do. > > On May 21, 2020, at 1:54 AM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > In general using the UI isnt an option for data management in t

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
install of TBC On Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:00:43 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > An update.. > > tested this on a colleagues machine using the exact same version and build > of TBC, and the search works fine out of the box. I created a fresh repo > and reran the same configuration s

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
series of icons in the tab. (both using chrome). Will try on some other machines and compare. Wondering if it some cached stuff as i have used all previous versions. On Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:12:05 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > oops - forgot to update item #6 - thats doesnt work if a

Re: [topbraid-users] Creating SHACL shapes from OWL

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
: > > > > On May 20, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > >> OK - this is based on exporting TTL and inspecting it - its picked up >> stuff from imports - if I open the Repository and look at triples without >> the imports these node shapes arent

Re: [topbraid-users] Creating SHACL shapes from OWL

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
> > > OK - this is based on exporting TTL and inspecting it - its picked up > stuff from imports - if I open the Repository and look at triples without > the imports these node shapes arent there. I didnt expect the TTL export to > include both an owl:imports statement and all the imported stat

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
oops - forgot to update item #6 - thats doesnt work if a filter is included if data is included - but does work if data is copied into graph On Thursday, 21 May 2020 12:09:04 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Ok - a few layers of challenges here - gradually unpicking it: > > Query in

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
t; wrote: > > > On 20 May 2020, at 09:25, Rob Atkinson > > wrote: > > OK search is _nearly_ working using the shapes once I save them and force > them to be imported. > > I had to set the graphql:publicClass and force-refresh the editor to pick > up changes. >

Re: [topbraid-users] SPARQL question: return graph where triple is defined

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
suggested by the EDG design of binding UI capabilities to asset types. functions are not the only reusable elements either: ui:Elements like have different side effects. On Thursday, 21 May 2020 11:15:51 UTC+10, Holger Knublauch wrote: > > > On 20/05/2020 11:40, Rob Atkinson wrote: &g

[topbraid-users] Re: Including content in a data graph

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
as default? and/or one that forces it (disables option) On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 12:38:21 UTC+10, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > Use Case: > > I have a large data graph I wish to navigate and allow users to annotate > so I expose in an EDG editor. Its not really "re

Re: [topbraid-users] Creating SHACL shapes from OWL

2020-05-20 Thread Rob Atkinson
> > > > Can you share your ontology, or better yet, reduce it to a minimal > example that triggers the problem, so that we can investigate, fix any bugs > for the next release, and perhaps advice on what specifically triggers the > bug in the current release? > > will do via email. This is a

[topbraid-users] Creating SHACL shapes from OWL

2020-05-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
A number of questions about the process of enabling EDG functions that rely on shapes A general question is what EDG functions and editor components need shapes to work properly - GraphQL for sure, Search (?) - Classes and instances dont seem to need to to display, but editing needs property

Re: [topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
inline On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 13:18:52 UTC+10, Irene Polikoff wrote: > > Please see below > > On May 19, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > Use Case: > > I have a large data graph I wish to navigate and allow users to annotate > so I expose in

[topbraid-users] Including content in a data graph

2020-05-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
Use Case: I have a large data graph I wish to navigate and allow users to annotate so I expose in an EDG editor. Its not really "reference data" - but its generated by scripting so the body should only be changed by external processes - and the idea of annotation is to provide feedback on th

Re: [topbraid-users] SPARQL question: return graph where triple is defined

2020-05-19 Thread Rob Atkinson
This is a general challenge with EDG - and in the Semantic Web as a whole AFAICT We have open world semantics, but in reality all operations are done over some graph closure. Systems make private, hidden, decisions about how to bound such graph closures. You absolutely need to understand the sc

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-30 Thread Rob Atkinson
A corollary of this issue is the GraphQL public schema We need to make a statement about the ontology in order to enable things in a data graph based on that ontology. We are interested in this for the data graph. Is it logical to push graphql:publicShape my:lovelyClass statements into th

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-28 Thread Rob Atkinson
Looks great... “I seem to see ahead, in a kind of way. I know we are going to take a very long road, into darkness; but I know I can't turn back.” Can we also have the template for achieving this programmatically in SWP script. ( I can beta test it at a script level before the UI is released,

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
; from the owl:imports closure, and there is no harm in keeping > owl:Restriction triples or RDFS domain/range statements in the original > files either. > > I'll record this idea as a ticket, but wanted to put this out here in case > anyone has further feedback. It doesn&#x

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-26 Thread Rob Atkinson
his out here in case > anyone has further feedback. It doesn't sound like huge development effort. > > Holger > > > On 24/04/2020 10:34, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > > > >> I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from >> standard

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
pporting > filtering/transformations in the UI is to put the logic into the UI code > itself, even if this makes it less "clean" from a model-driven POV. > > Holger > > > On 24/04/2020 12:33, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > I think the hidden field for classes in the t

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
lasses I am interested in, > then make it a root of the classes tree. I like it more than the hiding > option. > > On Apr 23, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > I think the hidden field for classes in the tree is the minimal starting > point - without that we cant r

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
I think the hidden field for classes in the tree is the minimal starting point - without that we cant really do very much. Its still messy having to build a complete suite of hide-me statements. A more general solution would be pluggability of the selection for what to display. I can see a cou

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
> I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from > standards but EDG requires the shapes - so end up doing complex automated > loading where I generate a wrapper ontology to contain created shapes and > then update imports in instance data to include these shapes i

[topbraid-users] Re: Q: EDG Class List Panel - How to show only classes in the current graph (no imports)

2020-04-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
tracking this with interest :-) I too find it awkward when I am working with immutable OWL resources from standards but EDG requires the shapes - so end up doing complex automated loading where I generate a wrapper ontology to contain created shapes and then update imports in instance data to

Re: [topbraid-users] Customising value displays

2020-03-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
of shapes? On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:02:36 UTC+11, Holger Knublauch wrote: > > > On 24/03/2020 17:20, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Poking around in code and docs I can see the SWP based ui:instanceView > > (though I dont see this in the SWP uispin.org documentation

[topbraid-users] Customising value displays

2020-03-24 Thread Rob Atkinson
Poking around in code and docs I can see the SWP based ui:instanceView (though I dont see this in the SWP uispin.org documentation) What I want to do is control the rendering of specific properties (in general I want to be able to link between objects in different asset collections effectively

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Support for JSON-LD

2020-03-03 Thread Rob Atkinson
URI > > > What URI? There is no property URI to bind to. It is a path that either > goes in inverse of a single property or traverses a chain of properties. > The chain can be of variable length. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 3, 2020, at 2:22 AM, Rob Atkinson &g

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Support for JSON-LD

2020-03-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
, a sizable percentage of > customers need today. > > Further, what are your thoughts about how SHACL paths would be addressed? > They are quite common - for inverses, for example. . > > On Mar 2, 2020, at 11:56 PM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > An example of an API th

Re: [topbraid-users] Re: Support for JSON-LD

2020-03-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
ose clients really > have a full RDF-based API, and would they be able to make sense of the > partial graphs that would be returned by the server? If yes, isn't a SPARQL > CONSTRUCT a more natural way to produce graphs, instead of relying on > another set of intermediate

[topbraid-users] Re: Support for JSON-LD

2020-03-02 Thread Rob Atkinson
to fully "support" JSON-LD it would be required to support it in the main query interface - i.e. the GraphQL JSON response should be decorated with a JSON-LD context statement that binds the available URI identifiers to the graphql schema elements - after all the graphql schema is generated fro

Re: [topbraid-users] How to build a REST API in EDG to validate external JSON-LD data?

2020-01-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
the > same information for working with SHACL. > > On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-5, Rob Atkinson wrote: >> >> that very useful sounding link: >> >> >>> http://wiki.topquadrant.com/display/master/Ontology+View+or+Edit#OntologyVieworEdit-SHACLreq

Re: [topbraid-users] How to build a REST API in EDG to validate external JSON-LD data?

2020-01-27 Thread Rob Atkinson
that very useful sounding link: http://wiki.topquadrant.com/display/master/Ontology+View+or+Edit#OntologyVieworEdit-SHACLrequirementsforworkingwithReferenceDatasetsandDataGraphs > . > resolves to this less useful contents page https://doc.topquadrant.com/#OntologyVieworEdit-SHACLrequirementsfor

Re: [topbraid-users] Managing Layout choices for custom asset types

2020-01-22 Thread Rob Atkinson
tab or resize the window, cheers Rob On Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:23:38 UTC+11, Holger Knublauch wrote: > > Hi Rob, > > On 15/01/2020 17:49, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Love the new 6.3 editor :-) > > I've tried looking into code but not getting terribly far tryin

[topbraid-users] Managing Layout choices for custom asset types

2020-01-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
Love the new 6.3 editor :-) I've tried looking into code but not getting terribly far trying to work out what are the possible values teamwork:defaultLayout The only value i've found that works so far is "TabularEditor" When i make this default, the "available layouts" gives me a bunch of op

[topbraid-users] Re: shapes graph with custom asset collections

2020-01-01 Thread Rob Atkinson
OK - I had set it to true to force it to use the new editor in 6.2 I think. BTW "server start-up" - i did a reset system registries in TBC and it worked - for a deployed WAR will this need a hard restart? On Wednesday, 1 January 2020 10:56:14 UTC+11, Rob Atkinson wrote: >

[topbraid-users] shapes graph with custom asset collections

2019-12-31 Thread Rob Atkinson
The new UI extensively uses isShapesGraph() - but its not easy to find how this is determined... For a custom data asset type, what is needed for it to be treated as a data graph, not a shapes graph? I tried subclassing datagraph:Datagraph but it didnt seem to work. -- You received this mes

Re: [topbraid-users] Announcement: Release of TopBraid 6.3

2019-12-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
Blue one on the left.. On Friday, 13 December 2019 06:44:43 UTC+11, Irene Polikoff wrote: > > Which one are you talking about: > > Blue navigator on the left showing types of asset collections > > Or > > Asset types navigator in the editors > > > > On De

Re: [topbraid-users] Announcement: Release of TopBraid 6.3

2019-12-12 Thread Rob Atkinson
Looking good! Can we component documentation for making widgets to plug into editor, override options and a recipe to create a new tab using the React.js approach. The asset main menu tab is still not scalable or customisable to handle more asset types - is anybody interested (or willing to share

[topbraid-users] Re: combining owl and skos

2019-11-23 Thread Rob Atkinson
Thanks Irene will aim to submit a requirement once I've had more experience with the grahpqL stuff in 6.3 :-) On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 02:31:08 UTC+11, Bohms, H.M. (Michel) wrote: > > > > In: > > https://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/skos-and-owl/master.html > > > > its is said: > > “ >

[topbraid-users] Re: combining owl and skos

2019-11-21 Thread Rob Atkinson
Accepting this isnt the right forum, there are some interesting and important architectural issues here - so what is the right forum (where TQ architects can be engaged to either explain best practices or consider roadmap) I'll take the opportunity to point to some W3C work I've been involved

Re: [topbraid-users] SHACL - closed world validation

2019-10-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
One option would be to have a SHACL engine that captures provenance of shape validation - it means lots of extra triples of course, but you could then run such a query without doing something to force revaluation of al SHACL rules. Maybe an extension to SHACL to nominate an optional provenance grap

Re: [topbraid-users] Setting up tagger to tag an ontology

2019-09-11 Thread Rob Atkinson
> the Settings tab. > > From memory: I believe a property will be eligible as tag property if it > is applicable to the selected content root class, and has a range of > skos:Concept. Don't quote me on this! > > Richard > > > > On 10 Sep 2019, at 08:26, Rob Atkin

Re: [topbraid-users] SHACL rule on Ontology node?

2019-09-11 Thread Rob Atkinson
o verify the particular rule actually fires? > > Holger > > > On 11/09/2019 18:02, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Hi > > trying to execute a SHACL rule that preserves all the triples during a > replace _except_ the ontology object and its properties > > This gives me the e

[topbraid-users] SHACL rule on Ontology node?

2019-09-11 Thread Rob Atkinson
Hi trying to execute a SHACL rule that preserves all the triples during a replace _except_ the ontology object and its properties This gives me the expected results when executed against the target graph.. CONSTRUCT { ?s ?p ?o } WHERE { ?this a owl:Ontology . ?s ?p ?o FILTER ( ?s != ?th

[topbraid-users] Setting up tagger to tag an ontology

2019-09-10 Thread Rob Atkinson
I cant reconcile the documentation and actual behaviour for setting up the tagger The docs say The first few steps of setting up an AutoClassifier session are the same as the setup of a manual tagging session: 1. create a content tag set, 2. specify the content graph, tag property graph

Re: [topbraid-users] Separate namespaces (and possibly graphs) for instance data and model on XML import

2019-08-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
d do > this right after ontology creation - if you only generate and add shapes, > without removing any other definitions that are there. > > On Aug 15, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > I have tried reading this a few times and am still a little lost... > &

Re: [topbraid-users] Separate namespaces (and possibly graphs) for instance data and model on XML import

2019-08-15 Thread Rob Atkinson
logies defined only using SHACL. Or you could do > this right after ontology creation - if you only generate and add shapes, > without removing any other definitions that are there. > > On Aug 15, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Rob Atkinson > wrote: > > > I have tried reading this a f

Re: [topbraid-users] Separate namespaces (and possibly graphs) for instance data and model on XML import

2019-08-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
t the namespaces. Use the resulting file as input to the > sml:ConvertXMLToRDF step. > > Holger > > > On 15/08/2019 10:07, Rob Atkinson wrote: > > Checking I'm not missing something here.. can i import XML and have the > model (classes and properties) in a different

[topbraid-users] Separate namespaces (and possibly graphs) for instance data and model on XML import

2019-08-14 Thread Rob Atkinson
by post-processing to strip model triples into a separate graph, and update all the namespaces .. but if there was already a way to control different namespaces for model and instances it would be much better... Rob Atkinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

Re: [topbraid-users] Ability to re-route JSON-LD "@context" within EDG?

2019-08-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 to this. also, AFAICT there seem no reason we couldnt also add a JSON-schema. Both of these could be derived from shapes for a graph - and i think each exported graph would need some mix of the following: 1) a context derived from the graphQL schema used in the case of a graphQL export 2)

Re: [topbraid-users] Capturing events on taxonomy's edits

2019-08-07 Thread Rob Atkinson
+1 - (stupid to have missed that - i can never quite keep track of which bits of documentation i have looked in.. cant you exploit existing capability in EDG to have a corpus set up which automatically imports all the documentation sources and makes them searchable in one place?) - we could the

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