To add to and refocus this issue:

1) We can extract tag triples from reified and qualified tagging data - but 
its not obvious whats the best way to make the annotations on reified 
statements visible in EDG - brute force via a DataGraph or custom SWP are 
possible, but maybe there is some thought and/or capability in place for 
this already?

2) Could workflows be used to do this?

3) Is there an RDF* capability in the UI we could/should be using?



On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 10:54:58 AM UTC+10 
simon...@surroundaustralia.com wrote:

> Hi there
>
> We're continuing to develop a workflow for assessing, reviewing and down 
> selecting sets of tags into final tags and tag sets e.g. for developing a 
> training set and running the tagger on a verified subset set of tags.
>
> I'm after some guidance on how to track metadata about tags.
>
> The tagger editor (EDG 6.3)   only seems to like tags in the form 
>
> <http://data.surroundaustralia.com/dataset/wiringrules/section/1.5.11.3>
>   corpus:topic <
> http://data.surroundaustralia.com/dataset/sa_wr_section_taxonomy_concepts/arm's_reach>
>  
> .
>
> If you alter this triple set it no longer shows in the source code or as a 
> tag against a corpus document. There is obviously a shape for the tags view 
> and editor I assume.
>
> I've tried a few things such as adding blank nodes to the triple or 
> reifying the statement 
>
> e.g.
>
> <
> https://data.surroundaustralia.com/dataset/annotations#arms_reach_tag_metadata
> >
>         rdfs:label     "arms reach tag metadata" ;
>         rdf:type       rdf:Statement ;
>         rdf:subject    sec:1.5.11.3 ;
>         rdf:predicate  corpus:topic ;
>         rdf:object     <
> http://data.surroundaustralia.com/dataset/sa_wr_section_taxonomy_concepts/arm's_reach>
>  
> .
>
> But it still disappears from the tag editor EDG view of things.
>
> So the question is;
> Is the following approach best or is there another solution ?
>
> 1. Store the tag along with metadata about it's usage and status in 
> another graph e.g. datagraph; and
> 2.  use a rule/transform, insert/update only the clean tag triples from 
> the above into the tagset graph
>
> P.s.   i posted a couple of weeks ago about being able to view all the 
> tags "attached" to a document. Note this is distinct from viewing the 
> available tags.  Irene provided a reply (belated thanks Irene), however it 
> doesn't solve the issue. 
>
> I'm still looking to be able to see the tags that  are "attached" to 
> documents. Not just the available tags as Irene highlighted.
>
> Currently I have to do this in a separate datagraph but I would prefer to 
> work in the tag set editor itself.
>
> Any guidance on this would be great.
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
>
>

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