RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-27 Thread marc fleury
| but at the same time, you have a problem with the GPL being |viral so you give exceptions for people to use JBoss. Instead, what you |should do is probably be using the MPL license which will solve your needs |without having to constantly grant exceptions to people. ??? what 'exceptions'? we n

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-28 Thread marc fleury
read that passage). YES it is possible to aggregate Apache+Tomcat (but isn't tomcat going to do http as well as?;-), Avalon (F we need JMX man, come on the 77 board ;-) Castor, Tyrex (cause assaf still kicks ass), PostgreSQL and jBOSS. And yes!! it is possible to include GPL packages with non-

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-28 Thread marc fleury
|> | but at the same time, you have a problem with the GPL being |> |viral so you give exceptions for people to use JBoss. Instead, what you |> |should do is probably be using the MPL license which will solve |your needs |> |without having to constantly grant exceptions to people. |> |> ??? |> |>

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-28 Thread marc fleury
|That is how you interpret it, not how RMS interprets it. I have a license and the wording is clear. What people say he said isn't the question. |I cannot take Tomcat and combine it with JBoss and make a |distribution of it |that is available from Apache.org because JBoss is under a GPL license.

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-29 Thread marc fleury
ok jon et al... it is trivial that APL software is incompatible with GPL, since for APL software to "contain, derive or modify" GPL software is not possible, we all agree on that. Aggregation of it is OK per the GPL. The point was and is on ordering of containment that I think is creating confu

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-29 Thread marc fleury
|The amazing thing here is that the APL 1.1 license is one of the least |restrictive licenses out there and definitely much less |restrictive than the |GPL. So, we are asking to not go to a MORE restrictive license, but to a |LESS restrictive license. How can that be a bad thing? jon, True! it i

[jBoss-Dev] jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-27 Thread marc fleury
s admins, consultants etc etc... i.e. a real platform. we can do it, we need your help, so let's do it... forget the rest, it is not real. Peace Love and Good Code, marc Marc Fleury, PhD CTO, Telkel Inc.

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-28 Thread marc fleury
k in distribution. Our distributions are GPL kosher. Please don't be afraid of it, and feel free to discuss it... regards marc |-Original Message- |From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 10:10 PM |To: jBoss Developer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; |[EMAIL

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-30 Thread marc fleury
no be careful 2b is about containment, containment is the STRONGEST, definition of the work is "CMD'ed work" and that is the MBeans in our case (they are GPL). marc |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rickard Öberg |Sent: Sunday, Octobe

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: jboss on tomcat update

2000-10-28 Thread marc fleury
| This is truly unfortunate. There are definitely ares of code that |could be shared - that *should* be shared, such as logging, dynamic |proxies, thread pools, and so on. It's too bad that it doesn't happen |until a javax package is available... Particularly since those are *not* |open s

RE: [jBoss-User] Re: [jBoss-Dev] Re: Mail from Stallman on legalityof LGPL in jboss

2000-11-10 Thread marc fleury
Alright forget it, one other reason I think we should stick to code is the consistently fail to communicate one way and the other. We send Rickard to the lists and the communication channel breaks down fast... So let's stick to code, java code, there are so many ways to interpret that and I am c

RE: [jBoss-Dev] Re: Mail from Stallman on legality of LGPL in jboss

2000-11-10 Thread marc fleury
|> There were 2 questions (my questions are indented) |> |> is integrating the library with other work (without any modification to |> the |> Library) a "modification of the Library" in case of the LGPL? |> |> No, it is not. It is just using the library. The whole reason for |> the LGPL is to gi

Mail from Stallman on legality of LGPL in jboss

2000-11-10 Thread marc fleury
Sorry from the crosspost So we asked Mr Stallman to state the obvious, the man obliged. it was a waste of time/energy 1- Using our library in ANY software, without modification, does not trigger LGPL coverage. 2- Developing our libraries and linking to non Free software is permitted with LGPL,