Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-08-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 29 Aug 2016, at 17:46, Jon Callas wrote: On Aug 29, 2016, at 5:44 AM, David McGrew (mcgrew) wrote: Hi Peter, You make a bunch of good points. But it is also worth noting that some people feel that current crypto standards, including IETF standards, are suitable for IoT. See for in

Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-08-31 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 31 Aug 2016, at 10:17, Derek Atkins wrote: > "Steven M. Bellovin" writes: > >> Yes. To a large extent, the "IoT devices are too puny for real >> crypto" is a hangover from several years ago. It was once true; for >> the most part, it isn