On 31 Aug 2016, at 10:17, Derek Atkins wrote: > "Steven M. Bellovin" <s...@cs.columbia.edu> writes: > >> Yes. To a large extent, the "IoT devices are too puny for real >> crypto" is a hangover from several years ago. It was once true; for >> the most part, it isn't today, but people haven't flushed their cache >> from the old received wisdom. > > This is certainly true for AES, mostly because many small chips are > including AES accelerators in hardware. It's not quite true for public > key solutions; there are still very small devices where even ECC takes > too long (and yes, there are cases where 200-400ms is still too long). > Certainly plausible. What I'm saying is (a) don't assert, measure; and (b) measure again next year because tech keeps improving.
As for your specific points: if AES is indeed feasible, we don't need new ciphers. If elliptic curve is too slow, the only answer is architectures that don't use public key at all; we're not going to find new, cheaper public key algorithms without a *lot* of effort and the people who can do that sort of thing are too busy working on post-quantum crypto. The remaining approach is a cheaper protocol than TLS. That shouldn't be hard at all, especially if we're going back to KDCs. --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls