Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Artyom Gavrichenkov wrote: > > 13 Mar. 2018 г., 18:38 Ted Lemon mailto:mel...@fugue.com>>: > One strategy that's very effective for overcoming resistance to bad ideas is > to keep pushing the idea until nobody who's resisting it can afford to > continue doing so

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

> On Mar 14, 2018, at 10:52 PM, Artyom Gavrichenkov wrote: > > 14 Mar. 2018 г., 22:32 Ralph Droms <mailto:rdroms.i...@gmail.com>>: > >> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Artyom Gavrichenkov > <mailto:xima...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> 13 Mar.

[TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

We are about to publish draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00. The TLS extension defined in this I-D takes into account what we heard from the discussion regarding TLS visibility and draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00 in Prague. Specifically, it provides an opt-in capability for both the TLS cl

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

> On Oct 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Russ Housley > wrote: >> No one is requiring TLS 1.3 that I know about. However, there are places >> that require visibility into TLS. I will let one of the people that works >> in

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:04 PM, David A. Cooper wrote: >> In order for a middlebox to be able to use this draft to intercept traffic >> that is TLS protected, it would need to: >> >> 1) get the server to agree to allow it to intercept the traff

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > I use an airplane as an example of a “captive” population, substitute any > similar group you want. > > • Yes, any box that sits between the client and the server can drop > traffic for whatever reason it wants. Such a box could toda

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:21 PM, David A. Cooper > wrote: >> I'm not suggesting that cash strapped schools would use one of these >> devices. I'm simply saying that such a solution would be simpler and far >> more e