[TLS] Question to draft-ietf-tls-esni 6.2.1.

2025-03-11 Thread 风扇 滑翔翼
Due to the existence of GREASE ECH, for requests made by clients that have implemented ECH but do not have a suitable ECH Config, the server always fails to decrypt and can choose to send retry config. Why not treat this an opportunity to upgrade Plaintext Hello to ECH(if certificate verificatio

[TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-10

2025-03-11 Thread Sean Turner
Okay PRs are ready to merge: https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis/pull/61 https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis/pull/62 And I found some typos: https://github.com/tlswg/rfc8447bis/pull/63 Will merge Sunday (when submission window re-opens) and spin a new version, unless you say otherwise. spt > O

[TLS] Re: AD review draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-10

2025-03-11 Thread Sean Turner
> On Mar 7, 2025, at 12:51 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > >> Section 5 TLS Cipher Suites Registry >> >> This section contains some reasoning why it is Discouraging things. The >> current >> IANA registry also contains such reasoning on the form of notes, but this >> section >> does not add to the

[TLS] Re: draft-ietf-tls-trust-anchor-ids-00

2025-03-11 Thread Luke T2
Hey David,   Thanks for the draft! I had some thoughts about how Relying Parties build their list of Trust Anchor IDs to send to the Authenticating Parties. In the draft currently there is different behaviour by the Relying Party depending on whether it is a retry connection or not. When a relyi

[TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-03.txt

2025-03-11 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Peter C writes: > In ML-KEM, Bob derives b deterministically from m and H(ek). > If Bob tried to reuse b with a different public key, then the > re-encryption check would fail during decapsulation. That check doesn't affect processing of valid ciphertexts, so it often won't be tested, so some impl

[TLS] Re: [Wimse] Public side meetings on identity crisis in attested TLS for Confidential Computing

2025-03-11 Thread John Kemp
Hi Usama, The title of this email is quite alarming to me ("identity crisis") and yet I'm not able to understand what the actual issue is other than someone wishing to replace public-key authentication with "attestation". Personally, I wouldn't do that. Although TLS PKI authentication involv

[TLS] Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-03.txt

2025-03-11 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Viktor Dukhovni writes: > I'd expect such designs to be quite unlikely That's different from "not possible". :-) I agree with your API comments: one can't build this by simply calling the FIPS 203 standard keygen-enc-dec functions for ML-KEM. However, if that were the end of the story then we wou

[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

2025-03-11 Thread Sean Turner
Just a quick reminder that this adoption call is still ongoing. spt > On Feb 28, 2025, at 1:56 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > > In response to the WG adoption call, Dan Bernstein pointed out some potential > IPR (see [0]), but no IPR disclosure has been made in accordance with BCP 79. > Additional

[TLS] Re: ML-KEM IANA and draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement codepoint and inconsistencies

2025-03-11 Thread Tim Hudson
On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:01 PM Kris Kwiatkowski wrote: > May I know if you have a plan for FIPS certificaton for PQC after release? > Absolutely - OpenSSL-3.5 will be heading into a fresh FIPS140-3 validation in April once the release is final - and that will include the PQC algorithms that have

[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

2025-03-11 Thread Watson Ladd
Adopt On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 7:59 AM Sean Turner wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that this adoption call is still ongoing. > > spt > > > On Feb 28, 2025, at 1:56 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > > > > In response to the WG adoption call, Dan Bernstein pointed out some > > potential IPR (see [0]), but

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-11.txt

2025-03-11 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-11.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: IANA Registry Updates for TLS and DTLS Authors: Joe Salowey Sean Turner Name:draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis-11.txt Pages: 17