[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for ECH SSLKEYLOG

2024-12-04 Thread Sean Turner
Hi! The WG last call for this I-D has ended. There were a couple of point raised that need to be addressed, but the big issue was to merge this I-D with draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile. I talked to the authors and they are all okay with merging the two I-Ds and I talked to the RFC editor and they can

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread John Mattsson
Hi, I have reviewed the draft. I think it is ready for publication with some minor changes. See my comments below. >TLS 1.2 is in widespread use This will not age well. I suggest removing widespead. >TLS 1.3 enjoys robust >security proofs and provides excellent security as-is. as-is, TLS 1.3 do

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread Bas Westerbaan
Nit: second paragraph of section 3 starts with "While the industry is waiting for NIST to finish standardization". That's not true anymore. Otherwise it's good to go. On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 10:28 PM Sean Turner wrote: > This is the working group last call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze. > Ple

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread Salz, Rich
>TLS 1.3 enjoys robust >security proofs and provides excellent security as-is. as-is, TLS 1.3 does not provide excellent security for long-term connections. It removes essential features such as asymmetric rekeying and reauthentication. Would changing it to “provides excellent security for many us

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread Christopher Patton
Looks good to me. Consider removing the Acknowledgements section, as it's not really used. Chris P. On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:48 AM Bas Westerbaan wrote: > Nit: second paragraph of section 3 starts with "While the industry is > waiting for NIST to finish standardization". That's not true anymore

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread John Mattsson
That would address your concern. John From: Salz, Rich Date: Wednesday, 4 December 2024 at 15:21 To: John Mattsson , Sean Turner , TLS List Subject: Re: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze >TLS 1.3 enjoys robust >security proofs and provides excellent security as

[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze

2024-12-04 Thread David Benjamin
Talking about providing "excellent security" also will get out-of-date and/or subjective once someone decides post-quantum, or any other 1.3-only improvement, is the bar for "excellent". I would suggest just not having the draft opine on such things when it doesn't need to. We could just delete th

[TLS] Re: DTLS 1.3 ACKs near the version transition

2024-12-04 Thread Frederik Wedel-Heinen
Hi David, I want to support dropping support of plaintext acks in a bis document. My focus with developing DTLS 1.3 is using DTLS-SRTP with a hybrid key exchange. We do not have a ressource constrained environment to worry about. So the initial implementation I do for OpenSSL is seeking to mini

[TLS] Re: Adoption call for TLS 1.2 Update for Long-term Support

2024-12-04 Thread Rob Sayre
Hi, I have sympathy for the chairs. I do find this one a little frustrating, although I agree. I wrote pretty much the same thing, either directly or by quoting Ekr in a few messages: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/_e_osuwApqE3jJcXiAxFMsXWdog/ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls