[TLS] Draft minutes at https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-121-tls

2024-11-12 Thread Salz, Rich
And attached Action items for the chairs are marked *in bold* # IETF 121 (Dublin) TLS Working Group Meeting Friday, November 8, 2024 Session II, 13:00 - 15:00 The Auditorium ## Agenda ## Working Group Items * Administrivia - chairs (5 min) RichS taking notes (*your name here*) No agenda update

[TLS] Re: DTLS 1.3 bis

2024-11-12 Thread Russ Housley
I agree that a bis is needed for DTLS 1.3, but I think that some of the things that David Benjiman talked about would have been discovered, especially the keyUpdate-related things, if there had been formal analysis of DTLS 1.3. Please have the FATT take a look. Russ > On Nov 12, 2024, at 3:2

[TLS] Re: DTLS 1.3 bis

2024-11-12 Thread Watson Ladd
I think anyone implementing would have discovered them. The other question which I'll try not to ask too frequently is at what point do we just point users at QUIC? On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:43 PM Russ Housley wrote: > > I agree that a bis is needed for DTLS 1.3, but I think that some of the t

[TLS] DTLS 1.3 bis

2024-11-12 Thread Joseph Salowey
At IETF 121, we discussed revised DTLS 1.3, aka a draft-ietf-tls-rfc9147bis. The chairs are proposing starting this I-D as a WG item with the existing RFC as a base. If you object to this please let the list know by 25 November 2024. Thanks, Deirdre, Joe, and Sean __

[TLS] Re: Post-quantum hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

2024-11-12 Thread Salz, Rich
- I don't think any new "Supported Groups" that allows an ephemeral key to be reused in more than one key-establishment in violation of SP 800-56ar3 should be RECOMMENDED=Y. As stated by Bas, we we can't stop reuse for existing key agreements immediately. Sure. Of course, we can never tell if

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-super-jumbo-record-limit-00.txt

2024-11-12 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-super-jumbo-record-limit-00.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: Large Record Sizes for TLS and DTLS with Reduced Overhead Authors: John Preuß Mattsson Hannes Tschofenig Mi

[TLS] Re: Adoption call for TLS 1.2 Update for Long-term Support

2024-11-12 Thread Sean Turner
Reminder that this adoption call is still on going. spt > On Nov 5, 2024, at 16:26, Sean Turner wrote: > > > >> On Nov 5, 2024, at 16:25, Sean Turner wrote: >> >> REQUEST: Let’s not rehash all the context. It is provided for those who >> might not remember or those that were not around fo