On 21/07/2024 18:09, Kyle Nekritz wrote:
Do you see differences with trust negotiation, or in the specific negotiation
mechanisms that are being proposed? Or would you have similar concerns if, say,
we didn't already have named group negotiation, and were discussing adding that
right now?
M
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 6:10 PM Kyle Nekritz wrote:
> On the surveillance risks, what differentiates trust negotiations from
> other existing negotiation mechanisms? Any negotiation mechanism comes with
> risks that it will be used to negotiate something problematic. It's not
> clear to me why tr
have named group negotiation, and were discussing adding that
right now?
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Jackson
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2024 3:25 PM
To: tls@ietf.org
Subject: [TLS]Re: Trust Expressions Update
On 29/06/2024 00:14, David Benjamin wrote:
> We have published a second,
Hiya,
I still need to re-read the trust expressions docs, though
my sympathy remains with Dennis' arguments so far.
That said, and independent from the rest of the discussion,
FWIW I don't think the particular argument below is sound.
On 20/07/2024 00:05, Ryan Hurst wrote:
It is also worth no
I think this highlights the importance of TLS as a specification used on
the web (versus being used an arbitrary protocol between two endpoints)
being explicit about what assumptions it is making about how root programs
are operated, and how the choices of those root programs manifest for
users. I
The risks of eIDAS did not come from the existence of a trust list, nor
would they have been amplified by server adoption or negotiation mechanisms
for the trust list. The existence of a trust anchor negotiation mechanism
such as Trust Expressions does not change the fact that the security risk
con
On 29/06/2024 00:14, David Benjamin wrote:
We have published a second, related draft, TLS Trust Anchor
Identifiers. This draft outlines a separate mechanism we had
considered during the design of TLS Trust Expressions, and is intended
to solve many of the same problems that Trust Expressions d
