Re: Updates to disk unmount test case.

2019-11-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 11/27/19 06:29, Kamil Paral wrote: Sure, no rush. Pat, one more thing, can you please make sure you always reply to the same email thread instead of starting a new one? Do not change the subject and use Reply (All) on an existing conversation. Delete all quoted text that no longer relevant

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-11-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
As promised during yesterday's meeting, I looked at the proposed test case: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tablepc/Draft_testcase_reboot I have multiple comments: - It is trying to check two things at the same time: 1. that reboot/shutdown works as expected 2. that filesystems are properl

Screencaster issue

2019-11-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've been needing a screen caster for a while. I starting "auditioning" them and ran into a consistent problem. The folks at Ask Fedora got me to a good place and provided an explanation as to why the video wasn't working (link next). https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/need-help-with-screencaster

Re: Screencaster issue

2019-11-29 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
According to the forum, it sounds like you have it solved now.  The issue is that if you're using Wayland, X applications can't read the screen.  Actually, Wayland apps can't do that directly either.  There's a new system called pipewire that provides that support now and will eventually take

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Kamil, Sure thing. I was planning to work on it today. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 12/2/19 06:01, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:10 AM Kamil Paral wrote: Sounds reasonable to test both LiveOS a

Re: Proposal: Asynchronous blocker review process (using Pagure)

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/2/19 07:03, Kamil Paral wrote: I'm not familiar with kanban/taiga. What is the benefit over using standard (Pagure) tickets? The kanban/taiga is what they use at Fedora Magazine. A Writer starts by creating an Issue proposing a new article for the magazine. There is a back and for

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/2/19 06:01, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:10 AM Kamil Paral wrote: Sounds reasonable to test both LiveOS and the installed system. Does it make sense to test both installed system's reboot and poweroff, though? Are t

Way to get test documents updated and new ones written.

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
When I saw the kanban/taiga mentioned on the test list today, I thought about a comment KParal made a while back about that there were some Test Cases that he knew of that needed some updating. I'm aware of some too. It seems to me we could use the kanban to keep our test documentation up to d

Re: Way to get test documents updated and new ones written.

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/2/19 14:45, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 14:36 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: When I saw the kanban/taiga mentioned on the test list today, I thought about a comment KParal made a while back about that there were some Test Cases that he knew of that needed some

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The first send didn't seem to work; so I'm trying again. On 12/2/19 13:43, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 12/2/19 06:01, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:30 PM Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 5:10 AM Kamil Paral wrote: Sounds reasonable to test both

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/3/19 06:27, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:43 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I have the update ready. I think I interpolated the discussion correctly, but probably leaned toward the "keep it simple for now" case. Please let me know if there are further chan

pipewire

2019-12-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I have just recently become aware of pipewire. If my questions are the wrong ones please feel free to interpret them in a more correct way. I am wondering: Is pipewire part of Wayland? From what I've seen so far, it seems like pipewire will replace gstreamer, ffmpeg, pulse audio, and jack. Th

Re: pipewire

2019-12-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/4/19 20:45, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2019-12-05 04:53, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I have just recently become aware of pipewire. If my questions are the wrong ones please feel free to interpret them in a more correct way. I am wondering: Is pipewire part of Wayland? From what I&#x

Re: pipewire

2019-12-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/5/19 03:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/4/19 12:53 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Is pipewire part of Wayland? No.  It's just necessary for screen casting with Wayland because you don't have direct access to the screen buffer now.  It provides the "pipe" between

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/5/19 03:56, Kamil Paral wrote: Here's the email I had in mind, containing the important journal messages: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/S5LQTXKFPIUKBFC7HL5SNSAV3ZRFP6WV/ We need to create a command or commands that will detect any of

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/5/19 14:07, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 12/5/19 03:56, Kamil Paral wrote: Here's the email I had in mind, containing the important journal messages: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/S5LQTXKFPIUKBFC7HL5SNSAV3ZRFP6WV/ We ne

Thinking about a project

2019-12-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I'm thinking about a project for myself and I'm curious about some things: Is there a tool available to automate (relval report-results)? Something like a template with check boxes and text fields you could fill in as you test and then do something like (relval post) and Yeah! all the results

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I think I have it close to what you want. Please let me know. Here's the link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tablepc/Draft_testcase_reboot Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 12/5/19 14:07, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 12/5/19 03:56, Kamil Paral

Re: Thinking about a project

2019-12-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/7/19 14:42, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/7/19 6:22 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: My idea is to connect 2 PCs together via USB. One PC would be running Python pretending to be the keyboard on the test machine. So of course I need a Python library that provides for keyboard emulation. I

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The test case is running on a new install. During the install a user was set up and that user has Admin. In that situation I've never had problems running journalcrl, grep, or this journalctl | grep. Perhaps we should have them login to their user account. I've not found the need to invoke sud

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-12 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/12/19 08:28, Kamil Paral wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 5:14 PM Adam Williamson wrote: What's the point of running the checks from Live image as well? The local filesystems will likely get wiped and re-created anyway. Extra failures in the log might just confuse us when reading the b

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/17/19 09:01, Kamil Paral wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:17 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Yes, but we use the keywords from those samples in the grep pattern. So if the sample is outdated, the grep pattern is likely outdated as well, and we need to update the test case anyway

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2019-12-19 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 12/17/19 09:01, Kamil Paral wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:17 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Yes, but we use the keywords from those samples in the grep pattern. So if the sample is outdated, the grep pattern is likely outdated as well, and we need to update the test case anyway

Closing bug reports

2020-01-01 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Happy New Year Everyone! In my prior experience I was expected to keep any problem reports I filed (like bug reports) followed up on and make sure they got closed. For me it's a long established habit. I like to keep my bugzilla list short. Sometimes bugs that I have filed are fixed without

Re: Closing bug reports

2020-01-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
First, Thanks to those who replied. I really appreciate it. I'd say if you know that they are fixed you should just close them explaining that. If there's some issue and the maintainer(s) want them to stay open they can always re-open them. To me, this seems a little pushy and I wouldn't feel

Re: For today's agenda item - Proposed disk unmount test case

2020-01-08 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_testcase_reboot Hey Pat, thanks for your edits. I've made some further changes to the same page (you can see them in history). I think the test case is good to go and be incorporated into our official test case set (under a more fitting name,

Re: Draft SOP for handling group membership requests

2020-01-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/8/20 7:27 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! As discussed at the meeting this week, we're sort of missing a process for people to become QA group sponsors, and an SOP for how sponsors should handle group membership requests. I've written a draft for the second piece today: https://fedora

Re: Draft SOP for applying to be a sponsor, and handling such applications

2020-01-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/9/20 3:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! To go with the draft SOP for handling group membership requests, here's a draft SOP for applying to be a sponsor, and handling those applications: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_sop_becoming_a_sponsor again I kept it pret

Re: Draft SOP for applying to be a sponsor, and handling such applications

2020-01-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/9/20 7:21 PM, Adam Williamson If we do turn out to have problems we can always tighten things up, but I don't want to build a whole big procedural bureaucracy from the start if we're not gonna need it... Sorry, just some of my history showing up. Though my career I have been a member of

Testing of F32 Workstation Rawhide drop 0109.n.0

2020-01-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation Rawhide drop 0109.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. After the he ISO was check summed it was loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The thumb drive was written successfully and then used to boot the test machi

Terminal in F32

2020-01-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I just noticed this so perhaps this is the normal case. In regard F32 Workstation 0109.n.0 which I ran tests on yesterday and for the most part everything seemed fine. When I bring up a terminal window The prompt is "[tablepc@localhost-live ~]" Is th live bit right for a Rawhide version?

Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is in regard to machines running Fully updated F31 and getting Kernel tainted errors and tpm2-abrmd errors on a recurring basis. My AMD A10 machine has not shown these errors. However, on my intel machines I have been getting frequent Kernel oops errors in Problem Reporter where it says

Re: Terminal in F32

2020-01-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Thanks. I don't know why I never noticed it before. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 1/11/20 11:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 10:19 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I just noticed this so perhaps this is the normal case. In regar

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/11/20 2:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:00 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: This is in regard to machines running Fully updated F31 and getting Kernel tainted errors and tpm2-abrmd errors on a recurring basis. Is this a 5.4 kernel? And does the Computer have Secure

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/11/20 4:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:26 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/11/20 2:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:00 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: This is in regard to machines running Fully updated F31 and getting Kernel tainted

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/11/20 5:58 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/11/20 4:27 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:26 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/11/20 2:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:00 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: This is in regard to machines

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/13/20 2:35 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: In regard to the TPM2 issue: Did you read the bug I cited? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1769215 Yes, this bug seems to be the exact problem I have. It doesn't matter if it's turned on or off. It's supposed to be fixed now. If you'r

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/15/20 1:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:05 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/13/20 2:35 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: In regard to the TPM2 issue: Did you read the bug I cited? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1769215 Yes, this bug seems to be the

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/15/20 3:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/15/20 11:58 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I get the fwupd on these machines, but from what I've read the TMP is a separate chip on these machines and is not programmable. I checked the Lenovo web site under support and for these models. The

Re: Kernel Tainted errors in fully updates F31

2020-01-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/15/20 4:39 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/15/20 1:29 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/15/20 3:22 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/15/20 11:58 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I get the fwupd on these machines, but from what I've read the TMP is a separate chip on these machines and i

F32 with Japanese keyboards

2020-01-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The topic came up in our meeting today that seemed to be a problem with Japanese jeyboards (kana kanji) working in F32. I think I must have initially misunderstood the issue. Apparently the observed problem was that when in the GCC under Region & Language the Japanese keyboard option "Kana Kanj

Re: F32 with Japanese keyboards

2020-01-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/21/20 6:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Indeed you can't really show a graphic of an input method - but in that case, the 'show layout' button *shouldn't be there at all* for list entries that are input methods. Don't show a button that can't do anything sensible. That's https://gitlab.gno

In regard to my testing of F32 rawhide Workstation drop 0131.n.0

2020-01-31 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/31/20 6:35 AM, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 32 Rawhide 20200131.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly In regard to my testing of F32

Proposal fora Base test case change

2020-02-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This proposal is for changes to Base test case: "QA:Testcase package install remove" The existing test case is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_package_install_remove Though there is a requirement to install packages, there are no commands provided to accomplish this. Also, t

Re: Proposal fora Base test case change

2020-02-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/4/20 06:20, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 3:48 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: This proposal is for changes to Base test case: "QA:Testcase package install remove" The existing test case is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_package_install_remo

Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I have completed a first draft of my proposed revision to the "QA:Testcase package install remove" Base test case. I got some input based on my initial e'mail on this. I believe I have addressed those items. I believe it is an important part of testing if an install happened properly to see

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I believe the purpose of the test case is to have a very generic test case that works in all environments (not just graphical ones) and applies to all package managers (notably dnf, packagekit, gnome-software, discover, dnfdragora, etc -- but not rpm, that is one level below them). It relies on

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/7/20 10:31, Kamil Paral wrote: So we're slowly getting back to the original version of the test case. It still contains instructions to check that applications start correctly, which I believe is not the point of the test case. I can certainly see that It's missing verification via rp

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/10/20 09:45, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I thought the best way to see if the install went well was to see if the application would start and close. I think the major difference is that you keep thinking in terms of applications

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/10/20 09:45, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: That's why I kept asking whether you'd like to create a test case tailored to GUI installation workflows (and looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/14/20 10:08, Kamil Paral wrote: We do have the test case for Core Applications and the ones for Browser and Terminal. Software even gets a tryout for updating. Question is: Is this sufficient? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_workstation_core_applications is just about a few ap

proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In the test list at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_32_Branched_20200212.n.1_Desktop There are 27 rows of things to test on between 1 and five platforms. Even given that much of the testing is automated. You still need test engineers to keep that all updated, running, and c

Sorry

2020-02-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Kamil, Please accept my apology, I had no desire to cause a problem. Have a Great Day! Pat ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct

Re: Sorry

2020-02-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I put some commentary in a wrong thread. and I should not have copied all in my response to Kamil. Pat On 2/18/20 08:27, Alessio wrote: On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 08:17 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Kamil, Please accept my apology, I had no desire to cause a problem. Excuse me

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 32 Branched 20200221.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2020-02-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/21/20 09:03, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 32 Branched 20200221.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see:

Testing of Fedora-Workstation-32-x86_64-20200225.n.0

2020-02-26 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Fedora-Workstation-32-x86_64-20200225.n.0 This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. After the ISO was check summed it was loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The thumb drive was written successfully and then used to boot the test machi

For 0226 not 0225 Testing of Fedora-Workstation-32-x86_64-20200226.n.0

2020-02-26 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Fedora-Workstation-32-x86_64-20200226.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. After the ISO was check summed it was loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The thumb drive was written successfully and then used to boot the test mach

Heed some help in regard to RHBZ # 1812510

2020-03-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is concerning firewall-applet. I see that firewalld and the firewall applet are based at https://firewalld.org, but it has been suggeted that gnome is the problem area for why firewall applet won't work under gnome but works fine under xfce. Reference:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bu

Re: Testing impact of Red Hat office closure

2020-03-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/16/20 14:36, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:53 AM Kamil Paral wrote: So our performance in these cases is likely to be severely affected. This might prevent any "test this RC in 24 hours" efforts What do you think about pushing back the whole schedule one week? Or tw

Testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0316.n.0

2020-03-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0316.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all a

Re: Call for testing: 4K displays and/or resolution scaling on X11 (especially AMD adapters)

2020-03-24 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/23/20 20:16, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! We have a proposed F32 blocker bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1809717 1. Run a GNOME-on-Wayland session, and see if the bug happens: 1. a) out-of-the-box 1. b) with display scaling manually enabled if it was not auto-enab

My testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0322.n.0

2020-03-24 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation beta drop 0322.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all a

Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
At last Monday's meeting there was mention of a need to start testing with NVMe. I volunteered to get some and help with that. Part of my motivation was the desire to become familiar with it and see if it's something I might have an application for. NVMe seems to have been created created mo

Re: Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/4/20 10:24, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:14 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: One thing that seems rather puzzling is that NVMe is offered in three different connection configurations. PCI-E, USB (with a USB connector), and SSD via SATA (with an SATA connector. Since

F32 Workstation-live 0401 drop

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I just finished my testing of 0401 on my bare metal test system. The results were not reported because the current event is 0404. Everything looks good except for the bugs I already reported and they are not blockers. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1812510 https://bugzilla.redha

Re: Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/4/20 15:27, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:45 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I'm not sure the having UEFI is the differentiator... I have a 6th gen I5 computer which boots UEFI fine but predates NVMe. On that one I use a PCIEx4 adapter and have /boot and /boot/E

Testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all and reclaim

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The approach the current criteria were intended to back was one where we would have something like rawhide-backgrounds or development- backgrounds which contained a background image that was very obviously a WORK IN PROGRESS kind of thing - picture of Beefy with "PRE RELEASE" written on it, or

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 11:21, Adam Williamson wrote: If we're gonna write test cases like that, we should probably just have an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the template we have. I don't like using a template which clearly expects the "Here are the steps, and here are the expected

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expected result 1 2. Expected result 2 3. Expected result 3 versus this: Test Steps and Expected Results --

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 16:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:57 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expecte

accounts-daemon - sys-nice

2020-04-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've seen that SELinux is still not allowing the accounts-daemon access to sys-nice. I see there is a bug filed on this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1811407 There seem to be two lines of thought about a solution. One to change SELinux granting daemons access and the other see

Testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4

2020-04-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all a

Re: Testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4

2020-04-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/21/20 13:25, Adam Williamson wrote: stardict-dic-en stardict-dic-ja These were both retired as they were unmaintained. You can always check this in dist-git: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stardict-dic-ja https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stardict-dic-en general

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 32 Candidate RC-1.5 Available Now!

2020-04-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/22/20 16:54, tmsta...@t-mittelstaedt.de wrote: Am 22.04.2020 11:54 schrieb Silvia Sánchez : But from *where* do I download the ISO ? On the wiki page are the download links. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/32/Fedora-32-20200421.0/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso/

Testing of: Fedora-WS-Live-rawh-20200510-n-0

2020-05-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of: Fedora-WS-Live-rawh-20200510-n-0 This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all and

Curiosity in QA:Testcase base service manipulation

2020-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to: QA:Testcase base service manipulation Back about a year ago now I started fiddling around with this test case to see if I could make it a bit easier to run. A little background first. After I have my test machine set up and ready to start testing a new drop I always do the login

Re: Curiosity in QA:Testcase base service manipulation

2020-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 5/13/20 12:34, Adam Williamson wrote: I ended up putting (sudo su) at the top of each script and just ran the commands without the (su -c). That seemed to work fine. Is there a critical to the test reason to use (su -c)? No. It really just means "do this as root". There are various ways y

Testing of Rawhide F33 Workstation drop 00620.n.1

2020-06-23 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is in regard to my testing of Rawhide F33 Workstation drop 00620.n.1: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to

btrfs testing

2020-07-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
After the QA meeting today, I spent a few hours trying the get Rawhide 0703 WS Live installed with btrfs. I have Rawhide 0703 WS Live on a thumb drive. I know this works fine when taking the default for the disk. I was trying to do a bare metal install to my test machine (Lenovo M53 with a

Re: btrfs testing

2020-07-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/6/20 19:53, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:43 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I was not successful in getting the disk configuration set in a configuration that Anaconda would accept for installation. Yeah, custom installation is a little bit of a mind-screw. :( You are

Re: F30 workstation beta fresh install: all well apart from gnome-clocks bug (and possibly suspend)

2019-04-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/13/19 13:17, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hello! Just installed F30 beta workstation on a brand new E490 thinkpad[1]. I am happy to report that everything's gone very well---installation and set up. I've run into the gnome-clocks issue, which won't let me login without the workaround[2,3]. I've clo

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 30 Branched 20190415.n.2 nightly compose nominated for testing

2019-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/15/19 22:17, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 30 Branched 20190415.n.2. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: h

Testing of F30 Workstation Live 0419 drop

2019-04-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F30 Workstation Live 0419 drop: I downloaded the ISO and the check sum passed. The ISO was burned to DVD and the DVD check sum passed. The test system (Lenovo M58p with E8400 processor) was booted to the DVD. The media test ran and passed. Anaconda started and ran no

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-01 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In the last QA team meeting (04/29/2019) I volunteered to help with adding something to the blocker bug process to handle Last Minute Blocker Bugs. I started by reading: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q46M75GUKRHMI5IMNGBNL6XHLD5GLLTS/ Follo

Testing Rawhide (F31) 0505 drop

2019-05-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I regard to testing Rawhide (F31) 0505 drop: I ran several of the standard test cases and logged the results via relval. I've continued testing with my local test cases and the notable result so far is that RHBZ #1694782 applies to this drop. Have a Great Day! Pat (tabl

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is a resend. In the last QA team meeting (04/29/2019) I volunteered to help with adding something to the blocker bug process to handle Last Minute Blocker Bugs. I started by reading: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q46M75GUKRHMI5IMNGBNL

Fwd: Media writer

2019-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is the message I sent to the Desktop list on 04/29/2019. Hi, In the QA team meeting today. A suggestion came up in regard to Media Writer. The idea is that it would be handy for Media writer to be part of the standard install for Workstation Live. Media writer gets used a lot to make boo

Re: Media writer

2019-05-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
possible to use Live system to make USBs because there might be memory issues. Lukas On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 5:35 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: This is the message I sent to the Desktop list on 04/29/2019. Hi, In the QA team meeting today. A suggestion came up in regard to Media Writer. The idea

Testing of Rawhide Workstation Live (F31) drop 0514

2019-05-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Rawhide Workstation Live (F31) drop 0514. The ISO was downloaded, checked summed, burned to DVD and check summed. The DVD was used to boot bare metal (Lenovo M58p with E8400 processor) The system booted to the DVD, media check ran and passed, and Anaconda started and

Re: [Test-Announce] 2019-05-27 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2019-05-26 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Tomorrow is a holiday here; so I won't be at the QA meeting. I did submit a draft to test@ as something to consider for the Last Minute Blocker Bugs process. I received two e'mails with input, but I thought it best to get the input from the meeting before I revised the draft. Please let me kno

Testing of Rawhide Workstation Live (F31) drop 0529

2019-05-30 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The following are notable results from my testing of Rawhide Workstation Live (F31) drop 0529: These are outside the scope of fedora standard testing, but I have several test cases I run to test my "as deployed" configurations. DNF fails to load large packages see RHBZ #1715617. The bug repor

Requested info for DNF and Auth bugs

2019-05-31 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I have added the requested information to the bugs as shown below: Bug 1694782 - Authorization pop up can not be satified or dismissed > So basically, the problem is that if you have an admin user with no > password, when an action requiring admin privileges is attempted, you > get this non-sat

Mystery empty file

2019-06-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I discovered something strange. In both F30 and Rawhide (F31) the file /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices is empty. That is it's a file of 0 bytes. This file used to contain all the information about connected USB devices. Does anyone know if this is part of an intended change or is it a bug? If it

Re: Mystery empty file

2019-06-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 6/6/19 13:11, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:05 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I discovered something strange. In both F30 and Rawhide (F31) the file /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices is empty. That is it's a file of 0 bytes. This file used to contain all the information

Re: Mystery empty file

2019-06-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 6/6/19 13:45, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 11:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:49 AM Richard Ryniker wrote: I think you will find the file is not truly empty. /sys is not an actual file system, merely an interface to kernel information. There is no

Re: Mystery empty file

2019-06-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 6/6/19 14:25, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 6/6/19 11:11 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 6/6/19 13:45, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 11:15 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:49 AM Richard Ryniker wrote: I think you will find the file is not truly empty.  /sys

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-06-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Proposed additions to the Blocker Bug Procedure to cover Last Minute Blocker Bugs (tidied up version). In case we cover this today at the QA meeting. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) BlockerBugs.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

Testing of Rawhide (F31) drop 0624

2019-06-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The following are the notable results for my testing of Rawhide (F31) drop 0624: Several of the standard tests were run with passing results and the results were logged via relval. The new bug I reported last time seems to be fixed now. There were no recurrences after many package removals a

Problem with mcelog.service

2019-07-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Today I was just checking some stuff on my personal machine and found a problem. This PC is a Lenovo H50-55 with an AMD® A10-7800 radeon r7, 12 compute cores 4c+8g processor. This problem does not show up on any of the intel based Lenovo machines. I'm running fully updated F30 Workstation in

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