Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-13 Thread Richard Ryniker
Al Dunsmuir wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:36:53 -0400: >I think these [file names such as "multi-user.target"] should be >viewed more as keywords, or reserved phrases >and not subject to translation. > >This is similar to a C program, where one has 3 cases: >- Comments and literal string can have

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-12 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 3:21:09 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote: >>On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >>> Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: >>> >>> 3 >>> vs >>> multi-user.target >> >>Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-06 Thread Brendan Jones
On 07/04/11 01:06, Adam Pribyl wrote: > You are right. The problem with systemd is that those arguments are > filenames, but you can not use "tab" for autocompletition. ATM systemd can > translate "3" to multi-user.target which is OK, but in the future who > knows. Acctualy if I understand the con

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 17:06 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:21 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > > > >> I should think "3" presents very little problem for internationalization, > >> whereas "multi-user.target" demands translation

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-06 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:21 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > >> I should think "3" presents very little problem for internationalization, >> whereas "multi-user.target" demands translation before it "explains >> itself" to non-English-speaking users. Be

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 15:21 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > I should think "3" presents very little problem for internationalization, > whereas "multi-user.target" demands translation before it "explains > itself" to non-English-speaking users. Because these are descriptive > file names, not just

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
>On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: >> >> 3 >> vs >> multi-user.target > >Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least >multi-user.target takes a shot at explaining itself. 3...3, well, n

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-05 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/05/2011 12:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: >> >> 3 >> vs >> multi-user.target > > Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least > multi-user.targe

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: > > 3 > vs > multi-user.target Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least multi-user.target takes a shot at explaining itself. 3...3, well, not so much

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/02/2011 02:14 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote > My inittab still states only that it is for upstart to set runlevel.. Then the new file must have been written as /etc/inittab.rpmnew Rahul -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-02 Thread Genes MailLists
On 04/02/2011 04:44 AM, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: > ... > >> systemd's native concept is 'targets'; graphical.target is roughly >> equivalent to runlevel 5 and multi-user.target is roughly equivalent to >> runlevel 3. rescue.target is roughly equal to runleve

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-02 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 21:40 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > >> Did you found any way how to force systemd to boot to single-user? So far >> my installation of F15 with systemd has only one runlevel, I can not >> switch it - nor with grub option, neither wit

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-01 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 09:44:03PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > It is also useful to know how to rescue a failed X session after > booting and in the middle of a graphical problem once logged in. > > On the old (current!) days you could switch also to a non-graphical VT > and enter telinit 3 to go

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-01 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > systemd's native concept is 'targets'; graphical.target is roughly > equivalent to runlevel 5 and multi-user.target is roughly equivalent to > runlevel 3. rescue.target is roughly equal to runlevel 1, and there's > emergency.target that's m

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 21:40 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: > Did you found any way how to force systemd to boot to single-user? So far > my installation of F15 with systemd has only one runlevel, I can not > switch it - nor with grub option, neither with inittab or init command. systemd doesn't real

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 03/31/2011 10:40 PM, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Panu Matilainen wrote: > >> On 03/31/2011 07:51 PM, cornel panceac wrote: >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/31 Scott Robbinsmailto:scot...@nyc.rr.com>> >>> >>> >>> Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, >>> es

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Adam Pribyl
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 03/31/2011 07:51 PM, cornel panceac wrote: >> >> >> 2011/3/31 Scott Robbins mailto:scot...@nyc.rr.com>> >> >> >> Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, >> especially in VMs. >> >> >> indeed, i had to boot another

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:26 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh napisał: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/31/2011 12:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:18 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh >> napisał: >> [..] >>> Well if you don't have /etc/selinux/config then boot

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 07:51:43PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: > > > Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, > especially in VMs. > > > indeed, i had to boot another operating system to increase the timeout so that > i can change the kernel line when needed.

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 03/31/2011 07:51 PM, cornel panceac wrote: > > > 2011/3/31 Scott Robbins mailto:scot...@nyc.rr.com>> > > > Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, > especially in VMs. > > > indeed, i had to boot another operating system to increase the timeout > so that i can

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/2011 12:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:18 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh > napisał: > [..] >> Well if you don't have /etc/selinux/config then booting without >> selinux=0 will cause the system to crash. If you want to d

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread cornel panceac
2011/3/31 Scott Robbins > > Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, > especially in VMs. > indeed, i had to boot another operating system to increase the timeout so that i can change the kernel line when needed -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/31/2011 06:12 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:58:22 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: I thought that enforcing=0 was considered a better option, no, as it avoided relabling. (I would be grateful if someone can either confirm or correct that statement.) Yes, enforcing

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:18 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh napisał: [..] > Well if you don't have /etc/selinux/config then booting without > selinux=0 will cause the system to crash.  If you want to disable > SELinux you need to tell the system by settingup /etc/selinux/config. > > If the system is blow

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Matthias Runge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/03/11 18:09, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 03/31/2011 05:50 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> W dniu 31 marca 2011 17:39 użytkownik Joachim Backes >> napisał: >>> On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/3/31 Mat

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/2011 12:14 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:09 użytkownik Joachim Backes > napisał: >> On 03/31/2011 05:50 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> >>> W dniu 31 marca 2011 17:39 użytkownik Joachim Backes >>> napisał: >>>

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 31 marca 2011 18:09 użytkownik Joachim Backes napisał: > On 03/31/2011 05:50 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> W dniu 31 marca 2011 17:39 użytkownik Joachim Backes >>  napisał: >>> >>> On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/3/31 Matthias Runge: >

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Eric Blake
On 03/31/2011 09:58 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > Yet another reason setting grub's timeout to 0 was a very bad idea, > especially in VMs. virt-rescue (part of libguestfs) is very handy for changing the grub timeout of an offline VM. -- Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com+1-801-349-2682 Libvirt v

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:58:22 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > I thought that enforcing=0 was considered a better option, no, as it > avoided relabling. (I would be grateful if someone can either confirm > or correct that statement.) Yes, enforcing=0 is a better temporary workaround than selin

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/31/2011 05:50 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: W dniu 31 marca 2011 17:39 użytkownik Joachim Backes napisał: On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/3/31 Matthias Runge: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, the subject says all: Since systemd(?) updat

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:39:41PM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >Hi, > > > >>the subject says all: > >>Since systemd(?) update an hour ago, my test system does not boot any > >>more. removing "rhgb quiet" from kernel command line shows > >>Failed

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 31 marca 2011 17:39 użytkownik Joachim Backes napisał: > On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> 2011/3/31 Matthias Runge: >>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> the subject says all: >>> Since systemd(?) update an hour ago,

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/31/2011 05:32 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/3/31 Matthias Runge: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, the subject says all: Since systemd(?) update an hour ago, my test system does not boot any more. removing "rhgb quiet" from kernel command line shows Failed to

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/3/31 Matthias Runge : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > the subject says all: > Since systemd(?) update an hour ago, my test system does not boot any > more. removing "rhgb quiet" from kernel command line shows > Failed to load SELINUX policy > Failed to set

since last update system does not boot any more

2011-03-31 Thread Matthias Runge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, the subject says all: Since systemd(?) update an hour ago, my test system does not boot any more. removing "rhgb quiet" from kernel command line shows Failed to load SELINUX policy Failed to set security context... for /run: invalid argument Fa