On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:02:36AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> This is not very comparable with the situation under discussion here,
> where the amateur user is likely to be, say, adjusting the brightness of
> a photo or rotating it 90 degrees,
If you think that "amateur" photo editing is l
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 12:04 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> I like examples so another one:
>
> I'm no professional lumberjack
>
> I'm perfectly happy to prepare some wood for our garden fireplace
> using some cheap electric chainsaw from the nearest hobbymarket -
> the "amateur tool"
>
> now if
> pinta is a mono bloat - and it doesn't work for me:
> /me is going to file a bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id1398
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Dne Čt 3. května 2012 07:49:28, Jonathan Kamens napsal(a):
> So, I took my concerns over to the gimp-user mailing list,
> where apparently this issue has been argued over a number of
> times.
thanks a lot; also for sumarising here
> As for alternatives, krita (the RPM is "calligra-krita") and
> p
Dne Čt 3. května 2012 12:18:46, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> > Dne St 2. května 2012 23:53:36, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> > > GIMP is a professional image editing suite, just like
> > > Photoshop. It's not a basic touch-up tool. It doesn't
>
On Thu, 03 May 2012 07:49:28 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> The developer in question is perfectly happy with the idea that by
> remaining true to its "vision," GIMP is going to drive away many users.
Just another example of the Vogon Effect...
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/rules-cha
So, I took my concerns over to the gimp-user mailing list, where
apparently this issue has been argued over a number of times.
According to the developer who designed and implemented this change,
GIMP has a "vision" for what it wants to be and a "target audience" of
intended users, and people
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:31 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> Dne St 2. května 2012 23:53:36, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> > GIMP is a professional image editing suite, just like
> > Photoshop. It's not a basic touch-up tool. It doesn't really
> > make sense to criticise it on the basis that you want to
Dne St 2. května 2012 23:53:36, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> GIMP is a professional image editing suite, just like
> Photoshop. It's not a basic touch-up tool. It doesn't really
> make sense to criticise it on the basis that you want to use
> it for something it's not really designed to do.
and wh
Dude, the only reason I continued the discussion here is because you did. :-)
You're right, this is not the place. I'll take it up with the GIMP folks.
Jik
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On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 17:45 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 05/02/2012 05:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 09:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> > > I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is
> > > mind-numbingly stupid.
> > Makes perfect sense to me
Another option would have been the LibreOffice approach... Warn the user about
saving in a non-native format but allow it (and allow the warning to be turned
off).
Another option would have been for the save dialog to default to FCC but allow
the user to change it to any other format. Instead,
On 05/02/2012 05:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 09:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is mind-numbingly
stupid.
Makes perfect sense to me. It's the same logic used in Audacity. You are
always losing information wh
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 09:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is
> mind-numbingly stupid.
Makes perfect sense to me. It's the same logic used in Audacity. You are
always losing information when 'saving' to an image format - the record
of
On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 11:55 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I sorta do too. That's one of the reasons I started my
> "Game Of Linux" web pages :-).
Thanks for that. Now the Windows7 and Win7 system partitions don't
insist on appearing on my desktop.
Yes I kept Lose7 because it is the only easy way
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:15 AM, stan wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:21:08 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:39 +0200
>> Karel Volný wrote:
>>
>> > I hope there doesn't exist one more step before like "in previous
>> > iteration, users were bad to us, so let's break some f
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:35:58 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> I look a all these changes related to GIMP, systemd, GNOME 3, KDE 4, grub2 as
> challenges and an Alzheimer's avoidance strategy.
I sorta do too. That's one of the reasons I started my
"Game Of Linux" web pages :-).
http://home.comcast.net/~
On 04/30/2012 07:21 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:39 +0200
> Karel Volný wrote:
>
>> I hope there doesn't exist one more step before like "in previous
>> iteration, users were bad to us, so let's break some feature to
>> do harm to them" :-)
> I have yet another theory - what
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:21:08 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:39 +0200
> Karel Volný wrote:
>
> > I hope there doesn't exist one more step before like "in previous
> > iteration, users were bad to us, so let's break some feature to
> > do harm to them" :-)
>
> I have yet a
Dne Ne 29. dubna 2012 11:40:49, Fernando Cassia napsal(a):
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:25, Karel Volný
wrote:
> > So, feel free to join me with the moment of silence for the
> > good old GIMP that is just getting buried.
>
> I share your pain. I've given up on Linux image editors.
>
> For simple
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:26:39 +0200
Karel Volný wrote:
> I hope there doesn't exist one more step before like "in previous
> iteration, users were bad to us, so let's break some feature to
> do harm to them" :-)
I have yet another theory - what if it is deliberate sabotage
by people who would pr
Hi,
Dne Ne 29. dubna 2012 19:03:18, Máirín Duffy napsal(a):
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 15:25 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> > So, feel free to join me with the moment of silence for the
> > good old GIMP that is just getting buried.
>
> If you could tone down the snark and indignation [1] you might
> h
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:25, Karel Volný wrote:
> So, feel free to join me with the moment of silence for the good
> old GIMP that is just getting buried.
>
I share your pain. I've given up on Linux image editors.
For simple stuff (circling text on screenshots, writing text over them) I
just
On 04/29/2012 10:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Lightbox
I meant Lightroom
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On 04/29/2012 09:48 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is
> mind-numbingly stupid.
Have you used Lightbox and Photoshop from Adobe? Some of their dialog stuff
can be
equally complex and counter-intuitive...especially Lightbox. Nothing lik
I agree. The save vs. export thing in the new version of gimp is mind-numbingly
stupid.
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On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Karel Volný wrote:
>
> Dear GIMP lovers,
>
> for the first time after update to Fedora 17, I've needed to do
> some simple edits to a few photos.
>
> Now
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