Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 17:21 +0100, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > This is a really mayor but and I don't understand it why it fails when > I tried grub2-install --force then grub installs without issues :( > This should have been a blocker Fedora bug. anaconda already uses grub2-install --for

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:25 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:16 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I did Fedora 16 Respin iso install with all latest packages, including > > latest Anaconda package, and still had this issue. > > > > There were two ntfs partitions (W

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:59 -0500, David Lehman wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> > Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the >> > worse wit

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2012-02-13 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:59 PM, David Lehman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the >> worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. >> P

Re: [Bug 727814] F16 Alpha TC1 installer crash | LUKSError: luks device not configured

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 08:34:49 -0600, TF (Tim) wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727814 > True, both ways should work but it doesn't really seem that common of a > use case since (we thought) most people would be either ignoring all of > their encrypted partitions or using the

Re: [Bug 727814] F16 Alpha TC1 installer crash | LUKSError: luks device not configured

2011-09-02 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 02:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Kamil Paral wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727814 > > > > --- Comment #8 from Tim Flink 2011-09-01 > > 13:18:54 EDT --- Discussed in the 2011-08-26 blocker review > > meeting. Rejected as a Fedora 16 beta blocker because it doesn't

Fwd: [Bug 727814] F16 Alpha TC1 installer crash | LUKSError: luks device not configured

2011-09-01 Thread Kamil Paral
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727814 > > --- Comment #8 from Tim Flink 2011-09-01 13:18:54 EDT --- > Discussed in the 2011-08-26 blocker review meeting. Rejected as a Fedora 16 > beta blocker because it doesn't violate any of the beta release criteria [1]. > > Accepted as NTH bec

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-27 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:50:39 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: >> > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:47:15 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: >> > >> >> > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' >> >> > Installation finished. No error reported. >> >> >> >> AFAIK

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 19:49:54 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes: > > > I was getting dependency errors trying to reinstall gnome-panel (which > > brings in gnome-shell). > > That problem, I DO have - gnome-panel-3.1.5-3.fc17.x86_64 is one of the > packages >

persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes: > I was getting dependency errors trying to reinstall gnome-panel (which > brings in gnome-shell). That problem, I DO have - gnome-panel-3.1.5-3.fc17.x86_64 is one of the packages I couldn't install, and my current version is gnome-panel-3.0.2-3.fc16.x86_64 whic

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 18:48:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:43:59 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Um, exactly what you quoted. Larger updates tend to get more false > > negative feedback. That's the main problem developers cite with them. > > Then it seems like the

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 19:31:31 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes: > > I'm not sure what you mean by "broken" - for me, the original problem (trying > to > pull in 32-bit packages, and then failing due to conflicts) is gone now in F16 > and never appeared in Raw

persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Andre Robatino
Bruno Wolff III wolff.to> writes: > Rawhide is broken today (and has been for a few days now), with regard to > gnome-shell. You can grab the latest gnome-shell built for F16 and things > work. I'm not sure what you mean by "broken" - for me, the original problem (trying to pull in 32-bit packag

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 16:59:22 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-August/155799.html > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731617 > > No progress in fixing it yet. Though I see roughly the same set of broken > dependencies in Rawhide,

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:28:37 +0300, Kalev Lember wrote: > When in the past rawhide was always what you'd get as the next upcoming > Fedora release, this is now slightly different. In the past, updates to > rawhide would slow down significantly when nearing a new release and the > repo would

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 07:50:39 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:47:15 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: > > > >> > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' > >> > Installation finished. No error reported. > >> > >> AFAIK, this won't be bootable, unless grub-install has run > >> success

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:47:15 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: > >> > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' >> > Installation finished. No error reported. >> >> AFAIK, this won't be bootable, unless grub-install has run >> successfully be

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:47:15 -0400, TH (Tom) wrote: > > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' > > Installation finished. No error reported. > > AFAIK, this won't be bootable, unless grub-install has run > successfully before, because that all that the above commands are > doing is popu

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread David Lehman
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 17:18 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:20:54 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:59 -0500, David Lehman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > Between TC1 an

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:18:56 +0200, me wrote: > >> Doesn't work for me. > > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true /dev/sda3 > Installation finished. No error reported. > > # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' > Installation f

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:18:56 +0200, me wrote: > Doesn't work for me. # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true /dev/sda3 Installation finished. No error reported. # grub2-install --grub-setup=/bin/true '(hd0,3)' Installation finished. No error reported. -- Fedora release 16 (Verne) - Linux 3.0.1-

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:18:56 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Installation finished. No error reported. Actually, it did work. Try doing the boot. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:20:54 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:59 -0500, David Lehman wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the > > > worse with r

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-26 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:15 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > yum --setopt="protected_multilib=0" blah blah blah > > > > which might help in situations where things are already deeply sideways. > > worth noting for the record that, as always when using 'force' type > parameters to a package

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-26 Thread Kalev Lember
On 08/25/2011 08:12 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > I've worked my way through this kind of mess a couple of times now, most > recently yesterday. Here's my experience: > > - Do a big rawhide update - in this case, at least two weeks worth. A bit off topic, but I would personally encourage everybo

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:59 -0500, David Lehman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the > > worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. > > P

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:55 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:28 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:20:12PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > > > Dunno if that helps anybody... never a dull moment... > > > > > > When upgrading rawhide from X - use screen

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 11:12 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > Error: Protected multilib versions: > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > > > > > > > I have no idea what these er

Re: F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-25 Thread David Lehman
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 22:56 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the > worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. > Partitioning hasn't changed. TC1 managed to install GRUB to /dev/s

F16 Alpha GRUB install failure

2011-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
Between TC1 and release of F16 Alpha, something must have changed to the worse with regard to installing GRUB to a partition's primary sector. Partitioning hasn't changed. TC1 managed to install GRUB to /dev/sda3. Anaconda now reports failure to install, and I've found this on

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:28 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:20:12PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > Dunno if that helps anybody... never a dull moment... > > > > When upgrading rawhide from X - use screen. > > and also when upgrading from ssh. > > things have definit

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jonathan Corbet (corbet...@lwn.net) said: > - Somewhere in the middle, while I'm not looking, the update kills the >running session and/or X server - I come back to a login screen. It >used to be safe to run "yum update" from a terminal window, but, >seemingly, not anymore. Not real

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:20:12PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > Dunno if that helps anybody... never a dull moment... > > When upgrading rawhide from X - use screen. and also when upgrading from ssh. things have definitely gotten a lot more fragile over the last release or two. Da

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 11:12 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > Error: Protected multilib versions: > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > > > > > > > I have no idea what these er

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Error: Protected multilib versions: > > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != > > gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > > > > I have no idea what these errors mean or how to fix them. > Any advice would be appreciated. Actually, t

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 08/24/2011 08:11 PM, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:26:44 +0100 >> Richard Hughes wrote: >> >>> I'm seriously wondering if multilib is worth all this hassle... >> >> Oh I've never wondered that: It has clearly never been a good

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Obviously noone would try to bundle completely unrelated packages in a > single update. So I am not really what you are arguing about exactly. Adam wanted to discuss "Enormo-Updates" and I think we just did. *shrugs* -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 17:53 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Bodhi has the ability to bundle several updates together even when they > > are not direct dependencies. He is referring to that > > Yes, I understand Bodhi can link any group of packages together. > > > >

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/25/2011 04:23 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: So there are items in this list that could be shipped in a separate update without any negative side-effects? I'm not a KDE expert, but I don't see a package that could be left off. If there are cases where package A and B are in an update and d

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Bodhi has the ability to bundle several updates together even when they > are not direct dependencies. He is referring to that Yes, I understand Bodhi can link any group of packages together. > > Example: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kde-l10n-4.6.5-1.fc14,k

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 14:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > the problem is if either update gets karma and gets pushed before the > other, it puts the repo into a broken state. And since they're > inter-dependent, it causes confusion like people -1ing the gnome-shell > update because they don't ha

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:43:59 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Um, exactly what you quoted. Larger updates tend to get more false > negative feedback. That's the main problem developers cite with them. Then it seems like the problem is the negative feedback, not the size of the update. Maybe it shou

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 17:36 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > I didn't say anything about dependencies. People file negative karma on > > stuff like 'Obscure Menu Item Z doesn't work', or 'there's a typo in the > > docs'. The more packages there are in an update, the mo

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/25/2011 04:06 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > You kept mentioning adding more packages to updates causes problems. > Typically adding packages is due to a dependency. > > If you're not talking about dependencies, what are you talking about? Bodhi has the ability to bundle several updates

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Williamson wrote: > I didn't say anything about dependencies. People file negative karma on > stuff like 'Obscure Menu Item Z doesn't work', or 'there's a typo in the > docs'. The more packages there are in an update, the more likely this is > to happen, and the more likely bad negative karma

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 17:21 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > more or less, each package added to the update exponentially increases > > the likelihood of false negative karma from someone whose local mirror > > doesn't have one of the packages, or who hit a really tiny

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Williamson wrote: > more or less, each package added to the update exponentially increases > the likelihood of false negative karma from someone whose local mirror > doesn't have one of the packages, or who hit a really tiny bug which > shouldn't be a case for a -1. The first part sounds like

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 16:43 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > But yeah, I can see the problems with Enormo-Updates as well. I'm not > > sure there's a really great way to handle updating such a giant mass of > > inter-dependent packages, but if Luke or anyone else has a

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Williamson wrote: > But yeah, I can see the problems with Enormo-Updates as well. I'm not > sure there's a really great way to handle updating such a giant mass of > inter-dependent packages, but if Luke or anyone else has any > suggestions... What's the problem with Enormo-Updates? -- test

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 16:52 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 12:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > Just about everything actually is, but it was done in fits and starts > > > and the Bodhi update edited over time, so not everything has made it to > > > every mirro

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 12:08 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Just about everything actually is, but it was done in fits and starts > > and the Bodhi update edited over time, so not everything has made it to > > every mirror yet. If you're particularly impatient you can set up a side > > repo

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 12:01 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 14:02 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said: > > > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > > > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 14:02 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said: > > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. > > > I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last fe

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:08 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. > > I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last few days (through alpha > > rc's and now alpha). > >

Re: F16 alpha: SElinux relabel at first bootup?

2011-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 08:53 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 08/24/2011 03:55 AM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > I've seen this with all alpha RC's and now with F16 alpha. At > > first bootup a selinux targeted policy label is required. Is this > > as designed? > >

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. > > I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last few days (through alpha > > rc's and now alpha). > > > Error: Prote

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:26:44 +0100 > Richard Hughes wrote: > > > I'm seriously wondering if multilib is worth all this hassle... > > Oh I've never wondered that: It has clearly never been a good > idea. Starting with the total lack of docume

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:26:44 +0100 Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm seriously wondering if multilib is worth all this hassle... Oh I've never wondered that: It has clearly never been a good idea. Starting with the total lack of documentation about how the heck it actually works when (for instance) mul

persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Andre Robatino
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-August/155799.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731617 No progress in fixing it yet. Though I see roughly the same set of broken dependencies in Rawhide, the problem does not exist there. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedorapr

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Richard Hughes
On 24 August 2011 16:08, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Error: Protected multilib versions: >> gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != >> gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > I have no idea what these errors mean or how to fix them. I'm seriously wondering if multilib is worth all this hassle... Rich

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/24/2011 11:08 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: >> I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. >> I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last few days (through alpha >> rc's and now alpha). > >> Error: Protect

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 11:35 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I have not seen any mention of this on the list so far so here it goes. > I've been seeing gnome dep problems for the last few days (through alpha > rc's and now alpha). > Error: Protected multilib versions: > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.

Re: F16 alpha: SElinux relabel at first bootup?

2011-08-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/24/2011 03:55 AM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I've seen this with all alpha RC's and now with F16 alpha. At > first bootup a selinux targeted policy label is required. Is this > as designed? > > Jurgen > no. It is a b

persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread Jurgen Kramer
e installed ---> Package polkit.i686 0:0.101-7.fc16 will be installed ---> Package readline.i686 0:6.2-2.fc16 will be installed ---> Package sane-backends-libs.i686 0:1.0.22-3.fc16 will be installed ---> Package sqlite.i686 0:3.7.7.1-1.fc16 will be installed ---> Package zlib.i686 0:1.2.5-4.fc16 will be installed --> Finished Dependency Resolution Packages skipped because of dependency problems: 1:control-center-3.1.5-3.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing 1:control-center-filesystem-3.1.5-3.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing empathy-3.1.5.1-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing evolution-data-server-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing 1:folks-0.6.0-5.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-contacts-0.1.2-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-keyring-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-keyring-pam-3.1.4-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-menus-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-panel-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing gnome-shell-3.1.4-2.gite7b9933.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing libsocialweb-0.25.19-1.fc16.x86_64 from fedora libsocialweb-keys-0.25.19-1.fc16.noarch from fedora p11-kit-0.3-2.fc16.x86_64 from fedora p11-kit-0.4-1.fc16.x86_64 from updates-testing Error: Protected multilib versions: gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 This is on a clean install of F16 alpha. Jurgen -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F16 alpha: SElinux relabel at first bootup?

2011-08-24 Thread Jurgen Kramer
I've seen this with all alpha RC's and now with F16 alpha. At first bootup a selinux targeted policy label is required. Is this as designed? Jurgen -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: which repos should be enabled in F16 Alpha?

2011-08-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:57:01 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > It seems the Fedora repo and the Updates Testing repo, but not the > Updates repo, are enabled for F16 Alpha. What is strange is that I > enabled Updates (and disabled Updates-Testing) and got a bunch of > different

which repos should be enabled in F16 Alpha?

2011-08-21 Thread Chuck Anderson
It seems the Fedora repo and the Updates Testing repo, but not the Updates repo, are enabled for F16 Alpha. What is strange is that I enabled Updates (and disabled Updates-Testing) and got a bunch of different updates from what is in Updates-Testing (which currently has broken deps). /etc

Re: F16 alpha rc4 hangs at grub boot - BZ# 730124

2011-08-17 Thread Jurgen Kramer
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 15:14 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 08/16/2011 01:16 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > > I've just tried F16 alpha rc4. Installation went without a hitch but > > unfortunately the system still hangs when grub tries to boot. BZ# > > 730124. > >

F16 Alpha RC5 incoming

2011-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. Just a quick heads-up to expect F16 Alpha RC5 within the next hour or two. We have the go/no-go meeting (again) tomorrow so we're really squeezed for time in validating this, if people could help out with testing that'd be great. The official announcement on test-announce wil

Re: F16 alpha rc4 hangs at grub boot - BZ# 730124

2011-08-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/16/2011 01:16 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: > I've just tried F16 alpha rc4. Installation went without a hitch but > unfortunately the system still hangs when grub tries to boot. BZ# > 730124. > > Any pointer how to get past this would be appreciated. > > Jur

F16 Alpha TC4 blockdev error messages

2011-08-16 Thread Robert M. Albrecht
Hi, booting the 32 Bit Gnome Live CD drops to textmode. blockdev invalid format on line 1 of table on stdin command failes Usage: blockdev -v -q . invalid format on line 1 of table on stdin command failes ln: failes to create symbolic link '/dev/root': File exists dracut Wanung: No

F16 alpha rc4 hangs at grub boot - BZ# 730124

2011-08-16 Thread Jurgen Kramer
I've just tried F16 alpha rc4. Installation went without a hitch but unfortunately the system still hangs when grub tries to boot. BZ# 730124. Any pointer how to get past this would be appreciated. Jurgen -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Experiences with F16/Alpha/RC4/Live

2011-08-16 Thread Joachim Backes
If using F16/Alpha/RC4/live for "install to harddisk", (I selected an extended partition for that), the installer fails on "writing bootloader to partititon", so I can't boot that installed F16. See BZ 730915). -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

Re: Experiences with F16/Alpha/RC4/Live

2011-08-16 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/16/2011 11:05 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > If using F16/Alpha/RC4/live for "install to harddisk", (I selected an > extended partition for that), the installer fails on "writing bootloader > to partititon", so I can't boot that installed F16. See BZ 730915).

F16 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #5 Recap

2011-08-12 Thread Tim Flink
=== #fedora-bugzappers: F16 Alpha Blocker Bug Review Meeting #5 === Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-08-12/fedora-bugzappers.2011-08-12-17.02.html

Re: F16 Alpha RC3 USB install

2011-08-11 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/11/2011 10:04 PM, Scott Robbins wrote: > When setting the host name, there's an option to > configure network, though, where you can go in and change things with > the NM interface. I hate that interface I have to add 2 things: 1. in dual head mode (my specific configuration at least) the b

Re: F16 Alpha RC3 USB install

2011-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 10:04 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:19:27PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: > > On 08/11/2011 08:41 PM, Timothy Davis wrote: > > > Two things: > > > 1) I used livecd-iso-to-disk to create an install USB and it worked > > > until anaconda got to examini

Re: F16 Alpha RC3 USB install

2011-08-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:19:27PM +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: > On 08/11/2011 08:41 PM, Timothy Davis wrote: > > Two things: > > 1) I used livecd-iso-to-disk to create an install USB and it worked > > until anaconda got to examining storage devices (bz#728883), I don't > > want to have to keep b

Re: F16 Alpha RC3 USB install

2011-08-11 Thread Frederic Muller
On 08/11/2011 08:41 PM, Timothy Davis wrote: > Two things: > 1) I used livecd-iso-to-disk to create an install USB and it worked > until anaconda got to examining storage devices (bz#728883), I don't > want to have to keep burning DVDs to test > 2) Is there a way to activate wireless networking in

F16 Alpha RC3 USB install

2011-08-11 Thread Timothy Davis
Two things: 1) I used livecd-iso-to-disk to create an install USB and it worked until anaconda got to examining storage devices (bz#728883), I don't want to have to keep burning DVDs to test 2) Is there a way to activate wireless networking in anaconda? My only network connection is wireless (Belki

[Test-Announce] 2011-08-12 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #5

2011-08-10 Thread Tim Flink
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #3 # Date: 2011-08-12 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net The Fedora 16 alpha release has been pushed back a week, so we get another blocker bug review meeting for alpha! The next Fedora 16

Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 13:00 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various > rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as > > http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png > > Not always, but at

Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/10/2011 11:00 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various > rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as > >http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png > > Not always, but at

Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:00:34 +0200 Michael Schwendt wrote: > Not always, but at random times. Also: > - perceived lag (compared with F15) > - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank >until I touch the window or move a GTK slider, >e.g. individual mailbox subject

F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
In an F16 Alpha install done via an upgrade from F15 final, I get various rendering issues in GNOME Shell, such as http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/tmp/screenshot-f16-alpha-damage1.png Not always, but at random times. Also: - perceived lag (compared with F15) - areas of the screen not

2011-08-05 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #4 - recap

2011-08-05 Thread James Laska
pdates/microcode_ctl-1.17-18.fc16 (jlaska, 18:27:57) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726744 (jlaska, 18:28:12) * at-spi-python has broken deps (jlaska, 18:28:16) * feedback needed from dgilmore on 726744 - is a pyorbit update still required for F16 Alpha?

[Test-Announce] 2011-08-05 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #4

2011-08-04 Thread James Laska
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #4 # Date: 2011-08-05 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Mark your calendars ... the fourth Alpha blocker review meeting starts at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers this Friday. We'll r

Re: F16 Alpha

2011-08-02 Thread Masami Ichikawa
on 08/02/2011 10:01 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > The basic storage checker throws an unhandled exception > apparently when it sees sda. Sda contains several bootable > systems. > I may have same problem. In my case anaconda crashes after host name setup menu. I used empty ext4 forma

F16 Alpha

2011-08-02 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Downloaded the x86_64 iso and wrote it to a jump drive with Live USB creator. Was unable to install from this image. Better luck was had with a dvd-rw. The basic storage checker throws an unhandled exception apparently when it sees sda. Sda contains several bootable systems. I got past that by

2011-07-29 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3 - recap

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-29/f16-alpha-blocker-review.2011-07-29-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-29/f16-alpha-blocker-review.2011-07-29-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-29 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3

2011-07-27 Thread Tim Flink
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #3 # Date: 2011-07-29 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net It's once again time for everyone's favorite activity - blocker bug review meeting time !! Fedora 16 has branched and

2011-07-22 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #2 - recap

2011-07-22 Thread James Laska
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f16-blocker-review.2011-07-22-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f16-blocker-review.2011-07-22-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f1

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-22 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #2

2011-07-21 Thread James Laska
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2011-07-22 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net !!! ALL-CAPS RED-ALERT OMG LOL !!! Fedora 16 Alpha test compose is less than *one* week away (Jul 26) and F16 Alpha isn't far b

2011-07-15 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1 - recap

2011-07-15 Thread James Laska
#fedora-bugzappers: F16-Alpha Blocker Review Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-15/f16-alpha-blocker.2011-07-15-17.00.html Minutes (text): http

2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1 - REMINDER

2011-07-15 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > # F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #1 > # Date: 2011-07-15 > # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) > # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Just a reminder that the first Fedora 16 Alpha blocker bug review meeting start

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/14/2011 12:11 PM, James Laska wrote: > To make sure I'm understanding, do you mean the next goal would be to > determine the status of the SysV->systemd feature and whether it will be > on track for a Beta TC1 target? If it isn't ... FESCO must decide > whether to hold the release, or drop t

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 11:31 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/14/2011 11:16 AM, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 20:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 07/13/2011 08:11 PM, James Laska wrote: > >>> Quite a bit smaller than the 100+ bugs on the list. Was that de

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/14/2011 11:28 AM, James Laska wrote: > Long story short, I agree it makes sense to keep this separate from the > blocker process. Agreed as well The sysv to systemd feature is a special case and should not be mixed into the standard QA workflow. The QA community should be aware of how imp

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/14/2011 11:16 AM, James Laska wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 20:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 07/13/2011 08:11 PM, James Laska wrote: >>> Quite a bit smaller than the 100+ bugs on the list. Was that decision >>> from a recent FESCO meeting? >> It's the one held on 15 June. >

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 18:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 19:25 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 07/13/2011 07:17 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > Your ideas are consistent with how we've handled this before, I don't > > > think I could have articulated nearly as wel

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