Re: Proposal refinement of the late blocker exception

2020-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 17:06 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > We learned in today's Go/No-Go meeting that the late blocker > exception[1] has an edge case when the release slips. Currently, it > suggests[2] that the bug becomes a blocker for the next milestone. In > the case of a Final wallpaper bug, that

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 16:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:57 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expected result 1 2

Proposal refinement of the late blocker exception

2020-04-16 Thread Ben Cotton
We learned in today's Go/No-Go meeting that the late blocker exception[1] has an edge case when the release slips. Currently, it suggests[2] that the bug becomes a blocker for the next milestone. In the case of a Final wallpaper bug, that doesn't make sense. I propose the exception be changed FROM

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:57 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for > > this: > > > > Test Steps > > -- > > > > 1. Step 1 > > 2. Step 2 > > 3. Step 3 > > > > Expected Results > > > > > > 1. Expected

Fedora-IoT-32-20200416.0 compose check report

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 8/8 (x86_64) New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-IoT-32-20200414.0): ID: 578977 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/578977 Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ost

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expected result 1 2. Expected result 2 3. Expected result 3 versus this: Test Steps and Expected Results --

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 12:24 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > On 4/16/20 11:21, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > If we're gonna write test cases like that, we should probably just have > > an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the template we > > have. I don't like using a

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:41 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:30:07PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Well, you could check based on EVR of fedora-release. Stable release > > is always has Release field bumped to 1, and unstable is below 1. > > True -- as long as people don't

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:30:07PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > Well, you could check based on EVR of fedora-release. Stable release > is always has Release field bumped to 1, and unstable is below 1. True -- as long as people don't get the idea that this means that release candidates are final. --

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:25 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 08:18:27AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It kinda harks back to a time where we had more custom artwork, I think > > - like boot splashes and stuff? I don't totally remember, but that was > > basically it, at th

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 11:21, Adam Williamson wrote: If we're gonna write test cases like that, we should probably just have an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the template we have. I don't like using a template which clearly expects the "Here are the steps, and here are the expected

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 08:18:27AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It kinda harks back to a time where we had more custom artwork, I think > - like boot splashes and stuff? I don't totally remember, but that was > basically it, at the time artwork was more than 'just' the desktop > background. Thes

Fedora 32 compose report: 20200416.n.0 changes

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-32-20200415.n.0 NEW: Fedora-32-20200416.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 3 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: Blocking on user switching: redux

2020-04-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:14 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hi folks! > > So, during Fedora 32 Final blocker review, a bug relating to "user > switching" came up for review: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1817708 > > I dug into the question of whether we have tended to consider the

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200416.n.0 changes

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200415.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200416.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 5 Dropped packages:4 Upgraded packages: 142 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 146.24 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Blocking on user switching: redux

2020-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 16:16 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > I use the functionality daily, so I'm biased, same as mattdm. I consider it > really a basic desktop functionality. On our home laptop, my wife never > logs out. Why would she, she just closes the lid and the laptop goes to > sleep. When I wan

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread Geoffrey Marr
Yes, the testcase suggests crond, but I suggested chronyd. I have had trouble in the past trying to use crond on some systems (cloud, I think, although it was a long time ago). However, I have never had an issue using chronyd, and it has become my go-to service to use when testing this testcase. I

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The approach the current criteria were intended to back was one where we would have something like rawhide-backgrounds or development- backgrounds which contained a background image that was very obviously a WORK IN PROGRESS kind of thing - picture of Beefy with "PRE RELEASE" written on it, or

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:09 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > > > I have tested Fedora IoT, Cloud, workstation on both ARM and x86_64, > > everything this testcase blocks on, and they all include chronyd. > > > > The testcase doesn't suggest chro

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:23 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:46 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > Honestly, I don't really like...any of these. I kinda get the intent > > but they all feel icky, mushy and squishy. > > > > It also feels too vague to me. Even our existing se

Re: Blocking on user switching: redux

2020-04-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 8:14 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! > > So, during Fedora 32 Final blocker review, a bug relating to "user > switching" came up for review: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1817708 > > I dug into the question of whether we have tended to consider the

Testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all and reclaim

Fedora-IoT-33-20200416.0 compose check report

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Iot dvd aarch64 Iot dvd x86_64 Passed openQA tests: 8/8 (x86_64) New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-IoT-33-20200415.0): ID: 578629 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/578629 ID: 578630 Test:

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:46 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > Honestly, I don't really like...any of these. I kinda get the intent > but they all feel icky, mushy and squishy. > It also feels too vague to me. Even our existing sentence "All Fedora artwork visible in critical path actions on release-

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > I have tested Fedora IoT, Cloud, workstation on both ARM and x86_64, > everything this testcase blocks on, and they all include chronyd. > The testcase doesn't suggest chronyd but crond. So which one are we talking about here? I tend to cons

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200416.0 compose check report

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproj

Fedora-Cloud-30-20200416.0 compose check report

2020-04-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
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