Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said: > On 09/06/2012 01:02 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said: > >>On 09/06/2012 09:40 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > >>>Johann, I don't really understand your point. The term 'default package > >>>set' no longer

Re: [criteria update] Update of uncategorized package groups criterion

2012-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-09-06 6:54, Kamil Paral wrote: Hi, we should amend the beta criterion: 'At the package installation stage, the install should show no uncategorized package groups' There should be something like 'Software selection spoke' instead of 'package installation stage', also I'm not sure if 'u

Re: [criteria update]

2012-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-09-06 0:58, Petr Schindler wrote: Hi, I think that require LVM and encryption in alpha phase is quite too early. It isn't feature which should slow down the alpha release. I propose to demand it in beta phase. So I propose to change alpha criterion: 'The installer must be able to comple

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-09-06 0:59, Kamil Paral wrote: Hi, Because of changes in package set selection in new anaconda, I propose to amend the alpha criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete package installation with the default package set for each supported installation method' to: 'The installe

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 6:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 09/06/2012 04:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> The design of the new UI isn't a step-through wizard like the old one, but >> hub-and-spoke: there is no 'next' exactly, as there's no set order for the >> spokes. You can do them

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2012 04:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The design of the new UI isn't a step-through wizard like the old one, but hub-and-spoke: there is no 'next' exactly, as there's no set order for the spokes. You can do them in any order. What 'back' really means is 'back to the hub'. I agree this

Re: [Test-Announce] Reminder: Go/No-Go Meeting today 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC)

2012-09-06 Thread Andre Robatino
On 09/06/2012 12:14 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important > meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 18 Alpha. > > As previously announced last week, we moved Go/No-Go two hours earlier. > > Thursday, September 06,

[Test-Announce] Reminder: Go/No-Go Meeting today 3 PM EDT (19:00 UTC)

2012-09-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Fedora 18 Alpha. As previously announced last week, we moved Go/No-Go two hours earlier. Thursday, September 06, 2012 @21:00 UTC (15:00 EDT/21:00 CEST) "Before each public

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Joachim Backes
On 09/06/2012 06:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2012-09-06 1:03, Joachim Backes wrote: >> Hi F18 testers, >> >> some general issues concerning all F18 test candidates: >> >> 1. Selecting the different options seems not to be >>comprehensible for Fedora newcomers: Why to press "back" for >>

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-09-06 1:03, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi F18 testers, some general issues concerning all F18 test candidates: 1. Selecting the different options seems not to be comprehensible for Fedora newcomers: Why to press "back" for selecting the next options (for example, after have done the k

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2012 01:02 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said: On 09/06/2012 09:40 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: Johann, I don't really understand your point. The term 'default package set' no longer exists in Fedora 18. Unless yum "groups" have been removed in F1

TC6 resuls

2012-09-06 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I downloaded the 64 bit TC6 ISOs. The DVD image checksum failed. The netinstall CD could not find a repository to load from. The DVD installed a Gnome desktop, but the resultant Fedora refuses to start a graphical desktop. I was finally able to install a Gnome desktop using pxeboot et al. The fi

Re: What should I rsync from?

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> I currently maintain my local mirror with rsync: > /usr/bin/rsync -av --delete --progress --stats \ > mirrors.kernel.org::fedora/development/18/x86_64/os /z/fc18 > > Is this the best place to rsync from to get up to date Fedora 18? > If not, where? Hello, you may find the informatio

Re: [criteria update] Update of uncategorized package groups criterion

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi, > > we should amend the beta criterion: > > 'At the package installation stage, the install should show no > uncategorized package groups' > > There should be something like 'Software selection spoke' instead of > 'package installation stage', also I'm not sure if 'uncategorized > package

What should I rsync from?

2012-09-06 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I currently maintain my local mirror with rsync: /usr/bin/rsync -av --delete --progress --stats \ mirrors.kernel.org::fedora/development/18/x86_64/os /z/fc18 Is this the best place to rsync from to get up to date Fedora 18? If not, where? -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.c

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Bill Nottingham
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said: > On 09/06/2012 09:40 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > >Johann, I don't really understand your point. The term 'default package set' > >no longer exists in Fedora 18. > > > > Unless yum "groups" have been removed in F18 I dont see how the term > "defaul

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2012-09-06 Thread Martin Krizek
DVD also seems to be missing packages, xorg-x11-server-Xorg (and possibly related). X server is not installed when desktop manager is selected (tested GNOME and KDE). Martin - Original Message - > From: "Jaroslav Reznik" > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, September 6,

Re: Reporting translation issues

2012-09-06 Thread Karel Volný
> Thanks for the explanation. In my case, there is only one other > localization (my native language) which I'm using in parallel > with English (US). Sometimes it's very funny to read mixed > message strings in some apps like Disk Manager or sealert, so > I thought I could participate and at last

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 (TC6) Available Now!

2012-09-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Seems like lives are missing a few packages available on TC5 - chrony causes 854899, also rsync is reported to be missing. R. - Original Message - > As per the Fedora 18 schedule [1], Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 6 > (TC6) > is now available for testing. Content information, including ch

Installed F18 TC8 in VirtualBox, no flaws

2012-09-06 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi F18 testers, I was able to install F18/TC8 into VirtualBox using Fedora-18-Alpha-TC6-x86_64-netinst.iso. The installed OS is operable. Additionally, I made some issues you can read in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854881 (Title:Improvement suggestions for all F18 test candidates)

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2012 09:40 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: Johann, I don't really understand your point. The term 'default package set' no longer exists in Fedora 18. Unless yum "groups" have been removed in F18 I dont see how the term "default package set" can no longer exist and no longer apply... JBG -

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> > To be as broad as possible is nice, but for now, there is nothing > > like > > 'default package set', you have to choose some, so the amending of > > this > > criterion is necessary. > > No it's not. Johann, I don't really understand your point. The term 'default package set' no longer exist

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2012 09:01 AM, Petr Schindler wrote: The good reason for this change is that we need to test our blocking desktops (Gnome, KDE), so it would be nice if anaconda could install them in alpha. We don't need any minimal system or web server. For the start we just need a working desktop for t

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> On 09/06/2012 10:15 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > >> Hi F18 testers, > >> > >> some general issues concerning all F18 test candidates: > >> > >> 1. Selecting the different options seems not to be > >>comprehensible for Fedora newcomers: Why to press "back" for > >>selecting the next options (f

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Petr Schindler
On Čt, 2012-09-06 at 08:45 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 09/06/2012 07:21 AM, Petr Schindler wrote: > > Please, let me know if you have some suggestions or objections. > > Please keep it > > 'The installer must be able to complete package installation with the > default package set f

[criteria update] Update of uncategorized package groups criterion

2012-09-06 Thread Petr Schindler
Hi, we should amend the beta criterion: 'At the package installation stage, the install should show no uncategorized package groups' There should be something like 'Software selection spoke' instead of 'package installation stage', also I'm not sure if 'uncategorized package groups' makes sense.

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2012 07:21 AM, Petr Schindler wrote: Please, let me know if you have some suggestions or objections. Please keep it 'The installer must be able to complete package installation with the default package set for each supported installation method' We are try to be as broad as possible

Re: The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi F18 testers, > > some general issues concerning all F18 test candidates: > > 1. Selecting the different options seems not to be >comprehensible for Fedora newcomers: Why to press "back" for >selecting the next options (for example, after have done the >keyboard >selection I w

Re: Reporting translation issues

2012-09-06 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 05.09.2012 19:07, A S Alam wrote: > ਬੁੱਧਵਾਰ 05 ਸਤੰਬਰ 2012 03:48 ਸ਼ਾਮ ਨੂੰ, Mateusz Marzantowicz ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ: >> Is there a single place for reporting translation issues in Fedora 18 or >> should I contact each project separately? > > > 1) if there are many issues specific to a language, it can be re

Re: [criteria update]

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi, > > I think that require LVM and encryption in alpha phase is quite too > early. It isn't feature which should slow down the alpha release. I > propose to demand it in beta phase. So I propose to change alpha > criterion: > > 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using the

The F18 test candidates (some issues)

2012-09-06 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi F18 testers, some general issues concerning all F18 test candidates: 1. Selecting the different options seems not to be comprehensible for Fedora newcomers: Why to press "back" for selecting the next options (for example, after have done the keyboard selection I want to select the tim

Re: [criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi, > > Because of changes in package set selection in new anaconda, I > propose > to amend the alpha criterion: > > 'The installer must be able to complete package installation with the > default package set for each supported installation method' > > to: > > 'The installer must be able to i

[criteria update]

2012-09-06 Thread Petr Schindler
Hi, I think that require LVM and encryption in alpha phase is quite too early. It isn't feature which should slow down the alpha release. I propose to demand it in beta phase. So I propose to change alpha criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete an installation using the entire disk, ex

[criteria update] Package set

2012-09-06 Thread Petr Schindler
Hi, Because of changes in package set selection in new anaconda, I propose to amend the alpha criterion: 'The installer must be able to complete package installation with the default package set for each supported installation method' to: 'The installer must be able to install the default deskt