Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 23:13 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 06/28/2012 09:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > That's not really true. We don't maintain the updates policy, FESCo > > does. > > Yes that's what I'm saying as in why is Fesco maintaining the update > policy instead of us + re

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 06/28/2012 09:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: That's not really true. We don't maintain the updates policy, FESCo does. Yes that's what I'm saying as in why is Fesco maintaining the update policy instead of us + releng? We don't maintain Bodhi, infrastructure does. We don't maintain Bugz

Re: Blocker Bug Tracking Draft Page

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 10:21 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:33:49 -0500 > Tim Flink wrote: > > > So, I've been working to update the script that updates the blocker > > bug tracking page. > > > > What I'm looking to add is: > > - hidable sections > > - better formatting (co

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 15:57 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > It's us ( QA+Releng ) that have to implement maintain and oversee > these processes to the best of our ability and a yay or nay at some > meeting from people that aren't actively working on this stuff makes > absolutely no sense T

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 13:11 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > Do you really want a bugzilla report for each time, when > dependencies break? > > No then again we should be catching those dependency breaks elsewhere AutoQA depcheck already does, and it's pretty rel

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 12:05 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > I'm not seeing this as any additional obstacle for reporters seriously > how harder is it to provide a link to a bug report vs filling in the > comment field? Well, the extra work is in filing the bug report, if it doesn't alrea

Preupgrade does not verify downloaded packages -> upgrade fails badly

2012-06-28 Thread Adam Pribyl
I found during preupgrade process from F16 to F17 that preupgrade does not verify that the packages downloaded for the upgrade are not corrupted. If any package is corrupted for any reason in preupgrade repo, this causes the upgrade process to fail somewhere in the middle, leaving system in un

Re: Blocker Bug Tracking Draft Page

2012-06-28 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:33:49 -0500 Tim Flink wrote: > So, I've been working to update the script that updates the blocker > bug tracking page. > What I'm looking to add is: > - hidable sections > - better formatting (column width etc.) > - decent looking css I've done some UI tweaking an

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 28. června 2012 12:11:02, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson napsal(a): > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Karel Volný > wrote: > > > I simply don't like this idea, there is enough bugzilla noise > > > and enough bureaucracy (read: obstacles) fo

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 28. června 2012 12:11:02, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson napsal(a): > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Karel Volný wrote: > > I simply don't like this idea, there is enough bugzilla noise > > and enough bureaucracy (read: obstacles) for anyone wanting > > to contribute (yes, even just clicking +1/-

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 03:40:17PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Hmm, so if grub would also install itself into /efi/boot/bootx64.efi > then this problem would just go away as that is the default file that > the EFI bios will execute. This would enable disk images that just boot > without any

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/28/2012 10:08 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: Having sent that mail it became obvious that what's happened is that your new x220 board doesn't have the efi boot variable set. Some machines allow you to boot from a file, in which case it'll be /efi/fedora/grubx64.efi . If your firmware doesn't have

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
> Having sent that mail it became obvious that what's happened is that > your > new x220 board doesn't have the efi boot variable set. Some machines > allow > you to boot from a file, in which case it'll be > /efi/fedora/grubx64.efi . > If your firmware doesn't have that, you'll need to boot some

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/28/2012 09:40 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 28.06.12 09:29, Peter Jones (pjo...@redhat.com) wrote: Having sent that mail it became obvious that what's happened is that your new x220 board doesn't have the efi boot variable set. Some machines allow you to boot from a file, in whic

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/28/2012 09:25 AM, Peter Jones wrote: On 06/28/2012 09:11 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: If you are knowledgeable about UEFI, I'll welcome your advice. This is the issue I encountered: 1. I enabled UEFI mode in BIOS in Lenovo X220 (more exactly I set UEFI as the preferred method). 2. I installed F

Re: swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Jones
On 06/28/2012 09:11 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: If you are knowledgeable about UEFI, I'll welcome your advice. This is the issue I encountered: 1. I enabled UEFI mode in BIOS in Lenovo X220 (more exactly I set UEFI as the preferred method). 2. I installed Fedora 17. 3. "Fedora" item appeared in BIO

swapping disk with UEFI hardware - a dead end?

2012-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
If you are knowledgeable about UEFI, I'll welcome your advice. This is the issue I encountered: 1. I enabled UEFI mode in BIOS in Lenovo X220 (more exactly I set UEFI as the preferred method). 2. I installed Fedora 17. 3. "Fedora" item appeared in BIOS in "Boot order" and also in the boot manage

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: > On 28/06/12 14:05, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > > I'm not seeing this as any additional obstacle for reporters seriously > > how harder is it to provide a link to a bug report vs filling in the > > comment field? > > > > JBG > > > > >

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Matthias Runge
On 28/06/12 14:05, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > I'm not seeing this as any additional obstacle for reporters seriously > how harder is it to provide a link to a bug report vs filling in the > comment field? > > JBG > > Do you really want a bugzilla report for each time, when dependencies br

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Karel Volný wrote: > > I simply don't like this idea, there is enough bugzilla noise and > enough bureaucracy (read: obstacles) for anyone wanting to > contribute (yes, even just clicking +1/-1 karma is a valuable > contribution ...) > This is no additional bure

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Jóhann B . Guðmundsson
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson > wrote: > > Just bringing this topic to the appropriate mailing list > > > > On the last kernel meeting [1] it was suggested negative karma points > should > > be linked to a report

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread Karel Volný
I simply don't like this idea, there is enough bugzilla noise and enough bureaucracy (read: obstacles) for anyone wanting to contribute (yes, even just clicking +1/-1 karma is a valuable contribution ...) - is this opinion worth 0.02€? :-) btw, reading the subject line, at first I understood it

Re: Linking negative karma points to a reported bug

2012-06-28 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson > wrote: >> Just bringing this topic to the appropriate mailing list >> >> On the last kernel meeting [1] it was suggested negative karma points should >> be linked to a reported bug