Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Lindsay Walker
I used Applixware a lot when I was working at Sun Micro and it drove me mad. It's not very stable and, compared to Star Office, its UI is terrible. I wouldn't pay the money for Applixware when you could get Star Office for free and its a much better product. Cheers, Lindsay - Original Messag

Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Jeanette Heidenberg
Hi all! My experience with Applixware is the opposite of Lindsay's, so I thought I'd share it. Me and my fiancee bought a version of Applixware a couple of years ago, and I used it quite a lot back then. I had mostly used FrameMaker before, and found that Applixware could do most of the things

Re: [techtalk] swtiching rhat drives . . .

1999-11-11 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Jeff Dike wrote: > I did just -p. > > Both the man page and info file say this: >-a, --archive > same as -dpR > > -d is preserve symlinks, -p is preserve attributes, and -R is recurse. > > -d and -R obviously weren't relevant, so I tried -p in case th

Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Amanda Owens
I have been using both Applixware (4.3 - we can't afford to upgrade yet) and Sun's StarOffice 5.1a at work, and trying to get a feel for both. I've been running Applixware 4.3 at home and at work for about 3 years now. I got a student version of Applix from Red hat for $79, but you can find a

Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Lindsay Walker
I have to say that I never used the older versions of ApplixWare, only the latest version which did not run well at all on Sun systems. I've never used it on a Linux system as I use Star Office at home. It would regularly crash the machines but then they only had 32MB RAM. As you would be running

[techtalk] Staroffice

1999-11-11 Thread Cathy James
>Star Office is downloadable from staroffice.sun.com. That didn't work for me. Try www.sun.com/staroffice. --Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

RE: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Clare Smith
StarOffice absolutely rocks when it comes to file conversions! I have to turn in excel and word files for grades & syllabi at the college and StarOffice converts it's files to the other without missing a beat, formulas, formatting, the works! Clare -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [techtalk] Staroffice

1999-11-11 Thread Amanda Owens
I'm sure you're right. I didn't try it before I wrote it down. :) I have it bookmarked somewhere. Also: Sun has a knowledge base for Star Office, as well as a news server (starnews.sun.com) with newsgroups for the different platforms and programs. These are useful, and worth a read if you're

[techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Stephan Zaniolo
Ok, I'm not sure if this should be asked here or in issues I'm working on a project that will consist of a database (IBM-DB2), and some home-brewed Java 1.1 applets and servlet(s?). I'm interested in licensing these under the terms of the GPL, but I remember hearing somewhere that Ja

[techtalk] netscape woes

1999-11-11 Thread Cathy James
Here's the fix for the Netscape font problem: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue47/lg_tips47.html#18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

[techtalk] Gnome/KDE, was: netscape woes

1999-11-11 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Caitlyn Martin wrote: > Hi, > > > > > I had major problems with the Gnome/Enlightenment/Netscape combos. > > > Switching to KDE fixed 90% of them. > > > > I think that's a bit drastic for a browser problem, really. > > It wasn't just a browser problem. Gnome had this love

Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Norma
StarOffice's Excel importers work better than Corel Quattro Pro's importers even. I checked it out under Windows (since I have a full version of Corel WordPerfect Suite for Windows). Norma *This sigline is Y2K compliant* - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[

Re: [techtalk] Staroffice

1999-11-11 Thread Norma
Oops sorry about that. I must have been tired when I wrote that. (that doesn't even make sense to me now :) ). Norma *This sigline is Y2K compliant* - Original Message - From: Cathy James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Techtalk' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 19

Re: [techtalk] Applixware

1999-11-11 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, > StarOffice's Excel importers work better than Corel Quattro Pro's importers > even. I checked it out under Windows (since I have a full version of Corel > WordPerfect Suite for Windows I must admit that the filters are what impress me most about Star Office. My main complaint about it is

RE: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Cathy James
>some home-brewed Java 1.1 applets and servlet(s?). >I'm interested in licensing these under the terms of >the GPL, but I remember hearing somewhere that Java >is not a "free" language and therefore can't be >licensed under the GPL. First, why is Java not a >"free" language? Can it be licensed

[techtalk] Arpwatch

1999-11-11 Thread Norma Ford
I need to know how to track ip addresses with the host name on our system to verify our dns configuration is correct. Does any one know of any tools to do this? Any help would be appreciated. Norma Ford System Administrator City of Casa Grande Casa Grande Arizona, 85222 1-520-421-8602 #206 [EMAI

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Michelle
I'm not sure of the legal technicalities either, but this might be a start: http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/gpl.html -Original Message- From: Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 10:00 AM Subject: [techtalk] GPL Questi

Re: [techtalk] Staroffice

1999-11-11 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On 11/11/99, 3:39:53 PM, Amanda Owens wrote: > Sun has a knowledge base for Star Office, as well as a > news server (starnews.sun.com) with newsgroups for the > different platforms and programs. These are useful, and > worth a read if you're interested in Star Office. > There's an installation FA

[techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
I thought maybe the fix sent to the list would fix my netscape also, but it turns out that was already IN my font catalog (so that's not my problem). When java tries to start, invariably it will come up with this error: "Unable to start a java applet: Can't find java40.jar in your CLASSPATH. Read

Re: [techtalk] Staroffice

1999-11-11 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, everyone, Karl-Heinz, very helpfully informed us: > > There's another way to get StarOffice: on the website > mentioned above you may order a CD for USD 10.- plus > shipping and handling, the total sum should not be too > much (at least if you don't order from outside USA). It's also include

RE: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Cathy James
>When java tries to start, invariably it will come up with this error: >"Unable to start a java applet: Can't find java40.jar in your >CLASSPATH. >Read the release notes and install java40.jar properly before >restarting. Do the following. I assume that "%" is your command prompt. % su - % cd

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> and look at the output generated. If you find a java40.jar > somewhere on the disk, go edit your CLASSPATH. Add the > path you found to the end of the environment variable. If > you find something like java40.jar.tgz, you'll need to > unzip and/or untar it before fixing CLASSPATH. Mmmkay, .

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Jamie Walker
Cathy James wrote: > % cd / > % find . -name *java40.jar* -print > > and look at the output generated. If you find a java40.jar An easier way is: locate java40.jar assuming your slocate database has been updated recently. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +64-21-870-425 ICQ: 5632563 or

RE: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Cathy James
>Mmmkay, >./usr/lib/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar >./usr/lib/netscape/java/classes.old/java40.jar >find: ./proc/5/fd: Permission denied >Sweet. :o) >WHERE do I edit "CLASSPATH"? It's gotta be something >netscape/java-internal, if I echo $CLASSPATH I get nothin. Just edit it in your

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> or if that doesn't work for any reason, since you *know* > what your CLASSPATH is set to, just do a > > setenv CLASSPATH : hmm i'll try that... but I don't think classpath is an environment variable. I added CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/that/other/path/here/ export CLASSPATH to my .bashrc and it

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > > > or if that doesn't work for any reason, since you *know* > > what your CLASSPATH is set to, just do a > > > > setenv CLASSPATH : > > hmm i'll try that... but I don't think classpath is an environment > variable. > > I added > CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/that/other/path/h

Re: xinitrc (was:Re: [techtalk] netscape woes)

1999-11-11 Thread Marlene E. Morley
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, K. Ziel wrote: >this is great! I want to go to fvwm (environment i used in school) because it >seemed so much more slick, and less bogged down I just gotta throw in my .02 cents on the wm issue... I know this is a Holy War just like the distribution preferences, but my pe

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
this is from the 4.51 release notes, I don't have any for 4.7 in /usr/doc Java Applet support is available for all Unix platforms. To run Java applets with the Java-enabled version, Communicator needs to be able to load Java class files from a file called java40.jar. This file

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 02:01:44PM -0800 or thereabouts, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > > I added > > CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:/that/other/path/here/ > > export CLASSPATH > > > > to my .bashrc > > > > and it gave me the exact same error about java40.jar. > > same problem with the full path determined th

Re: xinitrc (was:Re: [techtalk] netscape woes)

1999-11-11 Thread Marie Fischer
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Marlene E. Morley wrote: > I just gotta throw in my .02 cents on the wm issue... I know this is a Holy > War just like the distribution preferences, but my personal wm of choice is > Blackbox. It's small, like < 3 meg download, takes up only 1.7% of my memory, > loads fast, e

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Telsa Gwynne wrote: > > source .bash_profile(or whichever file it's in) > > Pardon me if this was something obvious and you did it. But I > forget that often enough... Yeah... I did it the easy way and exited the terminal/relog-ed in ;o) I'll remember that for next time though. I co

Re: [techtalk] Arpwatch

1999-11-11 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 11-Nov-99 [techtalk] Arpwatch by "Norma Ford"@ci.casa-gra > I need to know how to track ip addresses with the host name on our system = > to verify our dns configuration is correct. > Does any one know of any tools to do this? > Any help would be appreciated. I'm not cle

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Laurel Fan
bash is annoying in that way. From the manpage: "When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order

Re: [techtalk] more netscape woes...

1999-11-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Laurel Fan wrote: > > bash is annoying in that way. From the manpage: > Which means it runs EITHER .profile (if its a login shell) OR .bashrc > (if its not). Which is annoying. (Of course, you could put a "source > .bashrc" in your profile.). csh does it the right way: .login and .cshrc > (a

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Stephan Zaniolo
Cathy and Michelle, thanks for the help on this!!! :^) :^) Hopefully I won't be pushing my luck with this next set of questions. I read through the GPL and at the end it says that GPLed programs are not allowed to be incorporated into proprietary systems. I was planning on publi

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread jenn
Stephan Zaniolo wrote: > > I'm interested in licensing > these under the terms of the GPL, but I remember hearing somewhere that > Java is not a "free" language and therefore can't be licensed under the > GPL. First, why is Java not a "free" language? Can it be licensed under > the GPL? The

Re: [techtalk] Arpwatch

1999-11-11 Thread jenn
Norma Ford wrote: > > I need to know how to track ip addresses with the host name on our system to verify >our dns configuration is correct. > Does any one know of any tools to do this? > Any help would be appreciated. Do you mean you want to do a reverse lookup? Or what? Jenn V. -- Humans

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread jenn
Stephan Zaniolo wrote: > I read through the GPL and at the end it says that GPLed programs are not > allowed to be incorporated into proprietary systems. I was planning on > publishing an API for this system that others could use in proprietary > software. (Note: no code from the system

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Jeff Dike
> I was planning on publishing an API for this system that others could > use in proprietary software. (Note: no code from the system would/ > should be used in the proprietary system, just method/function calls) Then you release your code under the GPL, and document the API. Anyone else can i

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Stephan Zaniolo
At 03:09 AM 11/12/99 +, you wrote: >Um. How do you simultaneously use function calls to a piece of code and >not use that code? I mean no GPLed source code would be embedded in the proprietary code. I was thinking something similar to the Windows API. (Sorry for the analogy, but I've

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:50:09 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm >interested in licensing these under the terms of the GPL, but I >remember hearing somewhere that Java is not a "free" language and >therefore can't be licensed under the GPL. As far as I know, there is no legal

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 23:23:18 -0500, Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>I was planning on publishing an API for this system that others >>could use in proprietary software. (Note: no code from the system >>would/ should be used in the proprietary system, just >>method/function calls) >Then yo

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:51:38 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > 'I warrant that this code was written by me and I'm willing to >let other people use it for free so long as they ALSO let other >people use it for free' That's not at all accurate. The GPL says "Here. You can use this. You ca

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:00:43 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I read through the GPL and at the end it says that GPLed >programs are not allowed to be incorporated into proprietary systems. This is a misstatement, in my opinion. What you cannot do is license a GPL progra

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 22:25:23 -0600, Stephan Zaniolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >But I could write a >proprietary program for GNOME using the GNOME API (assuming there is >one), right? Or am I missing something? I think gnome-libs is LGPL, which allows linkage with proprietary code. However, you

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread jenn
Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:51:38 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > 'I warrant that this code was written by me and I'm willing to > >let other people use it for free so long as they ALSO let other > >people use it for free' > > That's not at all accurate. > T

Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions

1999-11-11 Thread Laurel Fan
(IANAL) Excerpts from linuxchix: 11-Nov-99 Re: [techtalk] GPL Questions by Stephan Zaniolo@mindspri > I read through the GPL and at the end it says that GPLed programs are > not > allowed to be incorporated into proprietary systems. I was planning on > publishing an API for this system