Re: [issues] Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-29 Thread Snarfblat
vanessa smale wrote: > > Ok, so Im completely in the dark here...can someone give a good url > explaining the UCITA, preferably one that enumerates both its good and bad > points and explains why Adobe got involved? > Thanks in advance, > Vanessa http://www.arl.org/info/frn/copy/ucita.html http

Re: [issues] Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-29 Thread vanessa smale
>Pretty much. If UCITA passes, the GPL will probably be easier to >enforce because the law will now recognize the ability of licenses >like the GPL to bind licensees. At least, that's what attorney Andrew >Greenberg said when this issue came up on Slashdot, and my own >analysis tends to confirm

Re: [issues] Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:18:32 -0600, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm not sure I agree with the FSF's opinion on UCITA. I thought the >GPL was just another instance of a shrink-wrap license. Pretty much. If UCITA passes, the GPL will probably be easier to enforce because the law

Re: [issues] Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Robert Kiesling
Caitlyn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I need to point out that Adobe is one of the companies funding the > lobbying in favor of UCITA. I don't often agree with RMS, but he is 100% > correct when he calls UCITA the greatest threat to Free / Open Source > software today. So... I w

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Robert Kiesling
"lady crowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mwahahaha... now for the newbie questions... > what is it used for? It seems to work really well for longer documents, and I like the word processing aspect of it more than Emacs, when marking up text -- it's much closer to WYSIWYG, I guess. -- stop

UCITA? [was Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux]

2000-02-25 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Where can we find specifics on this UCITA (or what are some specifics)? Maybe I'm just a lamer, but I've never heard a word about it. I guess I don't keep up with the layer-isms (no offense) :o) ... and, I suppose, why is it a "threat" (or a non-threat as the opinion may be) to the GPL/OSS/free s

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Steve Kudlak
Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > > Well, i just used it this morning to generate a PDF file (Portable > > Document Format) which is read by adobe acrobat reader. > > > > Not on linux :/ but sun. (Waiting for ADSL before I attempt that > > monstrous download) > > Unfortunately, there are a lot of thin

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:29:41 -0500, Caitlyn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I think I need to point out that Adobe is one of the companies >funding the lobbying in favor of UCITA. I don't often agree with >RMS, but he is 100% correct when he calls UCITA the greatest threat >to Free / Open Sour

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Well, i just used it this morning to generate a PDF file (Portable > Document Format) which is read by adobe acrobat reader. > > Not on linux :/ but sun. (Waiting for ADSL before I attempt that > monstrous download) Unfortunately, there are a lot of things you can't do with the linux version

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Snarfblat
lady crowe wrote: > > mwahahaha... now for the newbie questions... > what is it used for? > __ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org Well, i just used it this m

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, everyone, This probably need to migrate to issues, but... I think I need to point out that Adobe is one of the companies funding the lobbying in favor of UCITA. I don't often agree with RMS, but he is 100% correct when he calls UCITA the greatest threat to Free / Open Source software today.

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread lady crowe
mwahahaha... now for the newbie questions... what is it used for? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Robert Kiesling
> Sorry Robert! > > That's what happens when my plum-sized bran > tries to read/write two emails at once! Thank you very much. No harm done, but it is a shock to be called by someone else's name. -- stop http://www.mainmatter.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.o

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-25 Thread Walt
Sorry Robert! That's what happens when my plum-sized bran tries to read/write two emails at once! Walt -~ Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. Will Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-24 Thread Robert Kiesling
> Thanks Richard! Robert, please. -- stop http://www.mainmatter.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-24 Thread Robert Kiesling
> Is the 40MB the source or the installed size? Running out of space on > /usr but really want to install this software, need to know what to > budget (have lots of packages installed that we don't use enough, too). > :o) Unfortunately that's the download size. Du says 86 Mb when everything is

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-24 Thread Walt
Thanks Richard! I'm already a FrameMaker user and eagerly await the time when I can run a lot more of my business apps on my linux box instead of NT. Now my only concern is getting all my fonts working :-) Walt -~ Today's public opinion, though it may appear as light as air, may beco

Re: [techtalk] Free FrameMaker beta for Linux

2000-02-24 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Is the 40MB the source or the installed size? Running out of space on /usr but really want to install this software, need to know what to budget (have lots of packages installed that we don't use enough, too). :o) -nicole > This is the second beta revision. Participating in the beta testing > i