[techtalk] Help Needed: Getting X working on Sony laptop

2000-04-07 Thread Samantha Atkins
Hi, I've read the standard Linux laptop pages and found the trail to XFCom-neomagic X server and such. But everything I've tried so far is not sufficient for this machine. It is a Sony PCG-XG18 running a NeoMagic MagicMedia 256XL+. Most of the pre-figured-out stuff I've seen stops at M

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread jenn
Lori wrote: > I have heard that Perl is hard, Ha. If Perl is so hard, then why the HELL do so many people know it? Don't restrict yourself because you've 'heard' something. Give it a try. Go for the job, if it's one you think you'd like. Have them help you learn the thing. Give it a go! P

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Robert A. Newman
>I would suggest getting the Camel book and Learning Perl, both published >by O'Reilly, and there's another book called Perl in 21 days...it's >written by a woman. I can't remember her name off the top of my head, but >I have the book at home. I'll find out and send it to you. Laura LeMay. I

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread erin
Oreilly "learning perl" is great. I do not have ANY programming experience whatsoever and have found perl to be quite easy. I am a System Administrator for an isp and it has saved my life more than a few times.. and it is easy easy easy. Erin Martin System Administrator Cybertrails 602-906-17

Re: [techtalk] Re: [grrltalk] Linux for Kids???

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 05:10:55PM -0700, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > > Also, OO is a rather advanced abstraction. I didn't get it the first > > time I tried to pick it up (with a rather poor C++ book, not Dietel & > > Dietel). Of course, I also didn't have an instructor to go with the > > reading

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:17:25PM -0700, Nancy Corbett wrote: Ok, I need to get my say in on this too ;) It took me a *week* to get the syntax down and programming in Perl. Now, I've got a decent amount of experience programming, so YMMV. Anyway, perl is an absolutely great language. I kind o

Re: [techtalk] Re: [grrltalk] Linux for Kids???

2000-04-07 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Also, OO is a rather advanced abstraction. I didn't get it the first > time I tried to pick it up (with a rather poor C++ book, not Dietel & > Dietel). Of course, I also didn't have an instructor to go with the > reading, but procedural is still easier to think in than OO. Hmm, I don't think

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Chris Gay
hi, I recommend the learning perl book. Perl was the first language I learned, and I didn't think it was to hard at all. I don't push the camel book like others, as it seems to be printed man pages... Chris > The books to get are "Learning Perl" and "Programming Perl" from > O'Reilly. THere

[techtalk] Re: [grrltalk] Linux for Kids???

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 04:39:25PM -0400, Andrea Zamecnik wrote: > Have You ever thought about JAVA? I realize that its object orientedness I have and won't comment so as not to turn this email into a flame ;) > Deitel & Deitel's JAVA - How to Program. Its kind of expensive and doesn't Deitel

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Dan Nguyen
The books to get are "Learning Perl" and "Programming Perl" from O'Reilly. THere are several others... but Learning is a good book to learn from. And Programming... well everyone has the *Camel Book*. On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 04:54:11PM -0400, Lori wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry that I'm sure this

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Nancy Corbett
Lori, I am not a programmer and have never taken a programming class, but I've had lots of jobs where I've had to learn to troubleshoot perl scripts. I found tons of tutorials on the web and found a guestbook in my html book, so I hand coded it and placed it on my web page as an exercise. The

Re: [techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Check out the O'reilly series on perl. I have found that it does a pretty good job, and I don't think it refers to much C (if any). You might try http://perl.oreilly.com You might take a look at some perl documentation on the web and see if it's something you want to learn before you dive in :o)

[techtalk] Perl for idiots?

2000-04-07 Thread Lori
Hi all, Sorry that I'm sure this has been asked before, but... I am almost finished w/ a first semester Java class, and have kicked around some ASP and JavaScript. I've never done anything w/ C or C++ yet, wont have that in school 'til the fall. But I have been offered a job where they'll want

Re: [techtalk] no modem etc

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff
On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:36:37AM -0500, Jeff Dike wrote: > None of that really matters if you're serious about security. It may prevent > people from accidentally doing stupid things. It does nothing to prevent > malicious people with access to the hardware from hitting the power button, >

Re: [techtalk] no modem etc

2000-04-07 Thread Jeff Dike
> You can comment it out ir remap it to another program, like a script > that logs who and when pressed it. > If the console is in a place where other people can easily get access > to it and you are worried about security there are many programs, for > X and tty*, that lock the console out with

Re: [techtalk] no modem etc

2000-04-07 Thread Eric Baudais
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have one problem and one question.. > the easy question first... > If I go to shutdown i get asked for root's password.( i have set my user > self as super user equiv).obviously a security feature.. > BUT why can ANY user just go CTL-ALT-D

Re: [techtalk] no modem etc

2000-04-07 Thread jenn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have one problem and one question.. > the easy question first... > If I go to shutdown i get asked for root's password.( i have set my user > self as super user equiv).obviously a security feature.. > BUT why can ANY user just go CTL-ALT-DEL and the machine

[techtalk] no modem etc

2000-04-07 Thread dynamix
I have one problem and one question.. the easy question first... If I go to shutdown i get asked for root's password.( i have set my user self as super user equiv).obviously a security feature.. BUT why can ANY user just go CTL-ALT-DEL and the machine will end processes and dismount etc an