Re: run_rc_command succeeds if command not executable

self was first added to rc.subr (1.11) (and the running of everything was moved from /etc/rc to /etc/rc.d/*). -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgp0oOTK15p3d.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: add a "notty" flag to ttys(5) for init(8)

At Sat, 17 May 2025 08:41:32 + (UTC), RVP wrote: Subject: Re: add a "notty" flag to ttys(5) for init(8) > > On Fri, 18 Apr 2025, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > I figured the best way would be to run it from init(8) so that it would > > be running at all times while

Re: use of the uniquely NetBSD _OPENBSD_SOURCE vs something better?

e thinking of the way FreeBSD and OpenBSD manage the feature-test macros and how they have created these internal __foo_VISIBLE flags to separate the way features are exposed from the user control flags like _foo_SOURCE, etc. In any case that's probably way too much of a make-work project. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpBvHqdnyLRo.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

use of the uniquely NetBSD _OPENBSD_SOURCE vs something better?

there's a _lot_ more coordination and cooperation between the system's developers!) -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpJ_4y4Uby4e.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

add a "notty" flag to ttys(5) for init(8)

tion from localhost allow localhost# allow localhost to connect to the server and allow admin:monit # require user 'admin' with password 'monit' check process syslogd with pidfile /var/run/syslogd.pid start program = "/etc/rc.d/syslogd start"

auto-(un)configure vnd(4) for (u)mount (was: CVS commit: src/sbin/umount)

numbers. Maybe this would all make a good GSoC project (e.g. to suggest to all those who are otherwise eager to pick the seemingly singularly most popular project). -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avon

Re: major/minor(3) macros conflict with regular code

traditional. In 7th Edition they're in both! I do think they belong with the definition of dev_t though, which I think means keep them where they are. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, In

Re: major/minor(3) macros conflict with regular code

At Fri, 7 Feb 2025 09:59:15 +0100, Anthony Mallet wrote: Subject: Re: major/minor(3) macros conflict with regular code > > On Thursday 6 Feb 2025, at 18:01, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > At Thu, 6 Feb 2025 23:48:48 +0100, Anthony Mallet > > wrote: Subject: major/minor(3) macros

Re: major/minor(3) macros conflict with regular code

full native NetBSD system compatability and so could do without defining _NETBSD_SOURCE -- maybe define _POSIX_C_SOURCE instead (which explicitly then tells the system headers to _not_ define _NETBSD_SOURCE, and that will hide those macros). Or fix that code to use more descriptive and thus unique names fo

Re: Supporting compression-less release builds

to limited physical media any more. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpkaAMQQeB43.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: Private symbols in libpcap, libmagic, libexpat

osed to be in a library's ABI to just what's in its API, and as you point out, at least for both libpcap and libexpat, this is the way upstream was already building anyway. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHac

Re: Checking library symbols

-- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpqO7LSYBzdJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: Style guide function variable initialization?

naming practices, and avoiding spaghetti code (e.g. nested loops common in too-long function bodies), it can be kept to a minimum. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpYW0Cb_YM27.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

and parenthesis can be used to create expressions of arbitrary length and complexity, and surely I've done so for decades with multitudes of implementations with nary a problem. I agree POSIX does only require support for 4 arguments, but with the XSI extension any number are allowed, but I've never met a POSIX-minimal only implementation of test(1). -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpOSR5NFRIpp.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

more only a very few shells source $ENV when they are not interactive (and thus they don't need any interactivity test at all). Even AT&T Ksh gave up on always expanding and sourcing $ENV with the original ksh93 release (i.e. as of 1993/12/28), so it is always POSIX compliant now. (I ha

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

because (like “TERM”), xterm both reads and updates the variable, and because the program started by xterm is not necessarily a shell. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

On stock NetBSD this is just sh(1) and ksh(1), but it may also include older AT&T Ksh, other pdksh(1), etc. It would matter for the Heirloom Shell, but since it doesn't support $ENV at all, it does not actually matter for it. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpKwP6wMgEmm.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

At Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:59:49 +0200, wrote: Subject: Re: interactive shell detection in shrc > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 12:14:44PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > SHELL is set by ksh and not by sh (sh handles NETBSD_SHELL), if I'm > > > not mistaken? > > >

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

ferent and unrelated. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

king I had it. > But as Steffen (kind of) indicated, "test -t 0 && test -t 2" is > probably an easier way than using tty. Well, I'll be. I don't remember ever using "test -t"! I think I must have skipped over it entirely all these years! So I now have:

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

At Fri, 27 Sep 2024 07:14:46 +0700, Robert Elz wrote: Subject: Re: interactive shell detection in shrc > > Date:Thu, 26 Sep 2024 15:16:39 -0700 > From: "Greg A. Woods" > Message-ID: > > | I'm very curious: why did you include "

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

At Fri, 27 Sep 2024 01:32:34 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Subject: Re: interactive shell detection in shrc > > Hello. > > Greg A. Woods wrote in : > |At Tue, 24 Sep 2024 00:56:40 +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso \ > |wrote: > |Subject: Re: interactive sh

Re: interactive shell detection in shrc

;; esac case "$0" in -*) _interactive=true ;; esac if ${_interactive}; then : ... do interactive setup else : ... do script-mode setup fi unset _int

Re: POSIX.2, IFS and echo command

e stopped pulling in NetBSD changes and fixes early in 2002 and so dash has diverged ever since, especially with its own unique changes. For some interesting reading: https://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/ash/ Go up a couple of levels for even more good reading. --

Re: compilers and unused args in functions

r all idiomatic C when used with more complex expressions, such as function calls. Here "arg" is a valid expression, and a "(void)" cast discards or ignores the result of an expression. The abstraction of __USE() seems unnecessary and more difficult to read. --

Re: Possible "new" redirect style for /bin/sh (needs a name)

At Sun, 11 Apr 2021 09:05:57 +0200, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Subject: Re: Possible "new" redirect style for /bin/sh (needs a name) > > On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 05:04:11PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > > > So, still, the shell could keep a "high FD waterm

Re: Possible "new" redirect style for /bin/sh (needs a name)

efer to it (and also use as a sub-section heading for the man page, > and a test case name for (yet to be written) ATF tests of this) The only thing that immediately jumped into my mind was "dynamic redirection". Maybe Steve Bourne could suggest a name? (seriously) --

Re: odd ATF failure for sh: ulimit_redirection_interaction failed

orced (i.e. if the ulimit for open FDs is not kept lower than the number of currently open FDs); though I have not done any other kind of test to be sure the data sent to a multi-digit FD is actually received from the given FD. -- Greg A. Woods Ke

Re: odd ATF failure for sh: ulimit_redirection_interaction failed

ug printfs to the shell too, but I'm currently stymied by another problem (I can't access the domU filesystem from the dom0, and until I can get a complete rebuild to finish so I can do a full reinstall of the domU, accessing the FS from the dom0 would be the only easy way I have of injecti

odd ATF failure for sh: ulimit_redirection_interaction failed

id argument tc-se: tc-end: 1615494985.880185, ulimit_redirection_interaction, failed, atf-check failed; see the output of the test for details -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpH

Re: recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc()

g on what the internal malloc() uses to obtain heap space). -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpF7qd4gS1wJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc()

At Tue, 14 Jul 2020 00:28:46 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: Subject: Re: recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc() > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 03:05:17PM -0700, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > I think it is the following

recent changes to pthread_fork.c:fork() cause static linking to fail if the app provides its own malloc()

ot/shells/heirloom-sh/work/heirloom-sh-050706/mapmalloc.c:303: first defined here Should I send-pr this? Is there any possibility of an "easy" fix? -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote

Re: style change: explicitly permit braces for single statements

guide rule that should die) -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpKDOKszsCHU.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: style change: explicitly permit braces for single statements

I get that (I am too), but in my opinion C is just not really safe without them. -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgp07ateykbKh.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

postinstall removed yet another "obsolete" system library that was still used....

nly protects things installed via pkgsrc, and there's still the risk of subsequently needing to install a binary package built for an older release which needs one of these "obsolete" files, but at least pkg_add can (be made to if it doesn't already) notice this and abor

Re: merging /usr/bin etc. to / (was: Solving the syslogd problem)

as opposed to a traditional network filesystem like NFS). E.g. for shared mounts of /dev/xbd?? devices in Xen, or shared mounts of a single FibreChannel or iSCSI target. Can we even invent a new kind of shareable filesystem using, e.g., lockless on-disk data structures for writeable mounts? -- Greg A. Woods Kelowna, BC +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgpdoZp0PlAPV.pgp Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature

Re: failure when building a static-linked emacs25 (-nox11 on amd64)

R link. Neither "site:gnats.netbsd.org emacs" nor "site:mail-index.netbsd.org emacs crash" can find it. Google's spider should have found the PR and all the related mail long before now. -- Greg A. Woods +1 250 762-7675

failure when building a static-linked emacs25 (-nox11 on amd64)

a4 in ?? () #16 0x7f7ff2ab in ?? () #17 0x7f7ff2c6 in ?? () #18 0x00007f7ff2c9 in ?? () #19 0x7f7ff2dc in ?? () #20 0x in ?? () (gdb) That seems even more mysterious to me, though perhaps there's a good explanation somehow. (E.g. don't malloc() in a dumped binary because that's already been done? Or maybe the dumped heap is inconsistent?) -- Greg A. Woods +1 250 762-7675 RoboHack Planix, Inc. Avoncote Farms pgp0xUxIYhwLH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: randomness (crypto?) code example wanted please?

g to invent a new category for it just to keep it separate from both Ksh (and clones) and other Ash derivatives that don't grow a $RANDOM. -- Greg A. Woods Planix, Inc. +1 250 762-7675

Re: NetBSD on embedded devices

x filename 4536955 13034660 430196 18001811112af93 netbsd-NET5501.EMBED 03:18 [98] $ ls -l netbsd-NET5501.EMBED -rwxr-xr-x 1 woods wheel 18268428 Jun 5 2016 netbsd-NET5501.EMBED -- Greg A. Woods