Re: [lopsa-tech] backing up your VMs

2015-10-30 Thread Adam Levin
One of the issues we've been seeing with using NBU with the NetApp is that while NBU can orchestrate the snapshot on the NetApp, it doesn't catalog which VMs are on which datastores, so if a vMotion occurs and moves a VM, and then a restore is required, someone has to go hunt for it. I have not ex

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Ryan DeShone
The problem with script is that it captures output as well, which is unnecessary, I've also not found a way to automatically and silently run it each time a terminal is fired up. Oh, and when I started using the bash snippet I posted, I didn't know about script. What I posted captures only the com

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Ross Lonstein
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 08:36:21AM -0600, Yves Dorfsman wrote: > > For people spending a lot of time in a terminal/shell (bash, csh etc...) do > you work from the shell or from an editor? > > The joke goes that people using emacs live inside emacs, and I have indeed [snip] I used to live in

Re: [lopsa-tech] Air-Gapped Satellite Server?

2015-10-30 Thread Scott Roberts
I’ve used Spacewalk (http://www.spacewalkproject.org) which is a FOSS implementation of Satellite. For basic package and system management it’s a drop-in replacement. —Scott On 10/28/15, 4:02 PM, "tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org on behalf of Allan West" wrote: >Mario, for the use case in qu

Re: [lopsa-tech] backing up your VMs

2015-10-30 Thread Michael Ryder
Wait a minute... vMotion is allowed to move VMs around, but then your backup software is expected to put them right back where they were found? Why would it matter? That... almost doesn't sound fair! By default, if vMotion is enabled, vCenter will determine where to place the VM when it is restor

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Steve VanDevender
Ross Lonstein writes: > I used to live in Emacs/XEmacs but a few things changed over time: > * my role, which requires me to use MSOffice quite a bit > * prevalence of html mail and attachments, so Thunderbird VM handles attachments very nicely, and I've found emacs-w3m does a pretty decent j

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Josh Smift
SV> VM handles attachments very nicely, and I've found emacs-w3m does a SV> pretty decent job of formatting HTML mail into text. I feel like I get a lot of mail from Outlook users (in particular) that emacs-w3m can't format well at all. :^( VM also isn't great at *displaying* attachments, like in

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Ross Lonstein
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:14:24AM -0700, Steve VanDevender wrote: > Ross Lonstein writes: > > I used to live in Emacs/XEmacs but a few things changed over time: > > * my role, which requires me to use MSOffice quite a bit > > * prevalence of html mail and attachments, so Thunderbird > > VM h

Re: [lopsa-tech] Living inside your editor (vim or emacs)?

2015-10-30 Thread Mark Plaksin
Yves Dorfsman writes: > For people spending a lot of time in a terminal/shell (bash, csh etc...) do > you work from the shell or from an editor? > > The joke goes that people using emacs live inside emacs, and I have indeed > seen developers working from a simple window and sending chunk of cod

Re: [lopsa-tech] backing up your VMs

2015-10-30 Thread Adam Levin
No no, I'm saying that when someone needs a restore, it can be difficult to find the VM if it moved. In other words, if I have backups for the past month and the VM was on datastore 1, but then last week it moved to datastore 2, then when the restore is needed they'll grab it from datastore 2, but

Re: [lopsa-tech] backing up your VMs

2015-10-30 Thread Jim Ennis
We use Netbackup to do API backups of 95% of our virtual machines (VMWARE) down here, in part since our storage backend is Netapp based and has some support for snapshotting/backups. We add an attribute to the VMWARE host description that allows it to use the API backup and it all happens in th

Re: [lopsa-tech] backing up your VMs

2015-10-30 Thread John Stoffel
> "Adam" == Adam Levin writes: Adam> In other words, if I have backups for the past month and the VM Adam> was on datastore 1, but then last week it moved to datastore 2, Adam> then when the restore is needed they'll grab it from datastore Adam> 2, but if they don't get back what they need, a

[lopsa-tech] LOPSA-East '16 CFP and submission schedule released

2015-10-30 Thread William Bilancio
Greetings, LOPSA-East is pleased to announce that we have released our Call for ​ ​ Participation for our 201 ​6​ conference. Everybody with a passion for ​ ​ technology and a willingness to share with others in our industry are ​ ​ encouraged to submit! Full details of the CFP can be found on ou