> From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
>
> remember SPF records and how they were supposed to completely
> eliminate spam?
> and how they had similar problems with mailing lists and have now faded a
> bit,
> only to be replaced by this next attempt.
I spy a tell. I know you haven't read what
On 2014-05-16 at 06:35 -0700, Shrdlu wrote:
> Ignore it. I run two mailing lists, and neither has been affected by
> this, no matter how much Sturm und Drang is out and about concerning
> the change. Yes, both lists have Yahoo members. Yes, I've warned them
> that if Yahoo starts bouncing messages,
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Steve VanDevender <
ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> David Lang writes:
> > remember SPF records and how they were supposed to completely
> > eliminate spam? and how they had similar problems with mailing lists
> > and have now faded a bit, only to be r
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Matthew Barr wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
Have you looked into who's behind creating DMARC? AOL, Google,
Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, Comcast, and others.
Something to consider is that it was *also* created by Paypal & banks, which
are f
David Lang wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Shrdlu wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:13 AM, David Bronder wrote:
On 05/16/2014 08:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what
they are doing is correct and that
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Shrdlu wrote:
On 5/16/2014 6:13 AM, David Bronder wrote:
On 05/16/2014 08:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what
they are doing is correct and that the only way to do
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
> Have you looked into who's behind creating DMARC? AOL, Google,
> Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, Comcast, and others.
Something to consider is that it was *also* created by Paypal & banks, which
are frequently spoofed/phished. Not to mentio
David Lang writes:
> On Fri, 16 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
> > Have you looked into who's behind creating DMARC? AOL, Google,
> > Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, Comcast, and others.
>
> This isn't the first anti-spam creation those companies have created.
>
> Just because it
On Fri, 16 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what they are
doing
is correct and that the only way to do anything going forward is to munge
things
to work with Yahoo
As I said in OP, an
On 5/16/2014 6:13 AM, David Bronder wrote:
On 05/16/2014 08:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what
they are doing is correct and that the only way to do anything
going forward is to munge t
On 05/16/2014 08:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
>> From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
>>
>> Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what they are
>> doing
>> is correct and that the only way to do anything going forward is to munge
>> things
>> to work with Yahoo
> From: David Lang [mailto:da...@lang.hm]
>
> Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what they are
> doing
> is correct and that the only way to do anything going forward is to munge
> things
> to work with Yahoo
As I said in OP, and in fact, you quoted in your reply:
Before
Yahoo is not actually doing any of the rejecting... They've just published
a record that says "If you care about DMARC, please reject mail from a
yahoo.com user that doesn't come from a yahoo.com server."
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:26 PM, David Lang wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2014, Edward Ned Harve
On Thu, 15 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
From: Brad Beyenhof [mailto:bbeyen...@icloud.com]
Ah, Reply-To munging. Last time this came up on our local LUG mailing list,
there was quite a storm of opinion. However, if making a stance NOT to
munge would prevent some people from partic
Ah, Reply-To munging. Last time this came up on our local LUG mailing list,
there was quite a storm of opinion. However, if making a stance NOT to munge
would prevent some people from participating, I think everybody would've been
in favor.
--
Brad Beyenhof . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http
> From: Brad Beyenhof [mailto:bbeyen...@icloud.com]
>
> Ah, Reply-To munging. Last time this came up on our local LUG mailing list,
> there was quite a storm of opinion. However, if making a stance NOT to
> munge would prevent some people from participating, I think everybody
> would've been in fa
Before anybody says "Don't use yahoo," this is both a reasonable thing for
yahoo to do, and something that others can and should and will (like it or not)
be adopting more in the future.
Apparently yahoo recently set their DMARC policy to reject, which means yahoo
users can't participate in mai
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