Yahoo is not actually doing any of the rejecting... They've just published
a record that says "If you care about DMARC, please reject mail from a
yahoo.com user that doesn't come from a yahoo.com server."


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:26 PM, David Lang <da...@lang.hm> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2014, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote:
>
>  From: Brad Beyenhof [mailto:bbeyen...@icloud.com]
>>>
>>> Ah, Reply-To munging. Last time this came up on our local LUG mailing
>>> list,
>>> there was quite a storm of opinion. However, if making a stance NOT to
>>> munge would prevent some people from participating, I think everybody
>>> would've been in favor.
>>>
>>
>> Well, in the past, there was a lot of room for opinion.  But now and
>> moving forward, there isn't a lot of alternative.  See this article:
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-
>> antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html
>>
>> (a)  It's not just yahoo, this is actually a reasonable and good policy,
>> and it's been growing for years, and you can expect it to continue growing,
>> and it's only a matter of time before gmail etc do the same.
>>
>> (b)  When yahoo users post to a list, their mail gets distributed to
>> recipients of the list, and the recipient mail servers bounce the message.
>> So mail addressed to y...@gmail.com or m...@nedharvey.com get bounced.  And
>> mailman is likely to unsubscribe us as a result.  (Not the yahoo sender.)
>>
>> Assuming the list is run on mailman, the one and only obvious correct
>> action is to read the DMARC page on Mailman (posted in my OP message) and
>> choose one of the solutions that they recommend.  The most obvious of which
>> is the Reply-To munging.
>>
>
> Well, you are making quite an assumption when you say that what they are
> doing is correct and that the only way to do anything going forward is to
> munge things to work with Yahoo
>
> This isn't the first time a major e-mail provider had done something
> stupid, and it won't be the last (and yes, breaking mailing lists for their
> users with no notice is stupid).
>
> what will you do when two different providers insist on two contradictory
> things?
>
> This is listed as an "experiment" on the part of Yahoo. Well, the
> experiment is showing that this is a bad thing to do.
>
> If they want to quaranteen mail that doesn't pass DMARC and then run other
> tests against it, that's fine. But to just reject it is not.
>
> David Lang
>
>
>
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