d by
> >>>>really sleek.
> >>>>
> >>>>I am wondering if we could migrate to such a forum and use the same
> >>>>approach in Tapestry?
> >>>>
> >>>>Another feature that would be useful in such forum: find thread withoud
> &
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From: Frank Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 20:51:35 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
Yeah, but mostly with people looking for help, and not so much people
helping.
Notice how quiet the rest of the threads looking for real answers are..
> >>
> >>Yeah, but mostly with people looking for help, and not so much people
> >>helping.
> >>
> >>Notice how quiet the rest of the threads looking for real answers are...
> >>
> >>Frank Russo
> >>Senior Develo
nk Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 20:51:35 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
Yeah, but mostly with people looking for help, and not so much people
helping.
Notice how quiet the rest of the threads looking for real answers are...
Frank Russo
S
I like that many question in the H forum are answered by links to Hibernate
documentation or to other posts and threads.
- Original Message
From: Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 22:14:23 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
Plus
pestry users; Konstantin Ignatyev
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> I wouldn't compare this to the hibernate forum, i'm not sure if its
> the ranking or what but I barely ever get answers quickly from that
> forum. It will be days until a response may be given. I hav
spend fighting the IDE.
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: Sergei Dubov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tapestry users
> Sent: Fri Dec 16 21:09:11 2005
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> Another totally funny thread on Tapestry alias (the previous one was the
&
:09:11 2005
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
Another totally funny thread on Tapestry alias (the previous one was the
argument with Eric Hatcher about TDD and Ruby on Rails). I love Eclipse
but recently swithced to IntelliJ IDEA and love it even more. Anybody
not completely brain-dead will be able to
find thread withoud
> answers marked 'useful' - that might be wonderful tool that will allow
> Tapestry experts to focus on 'hard' questions;
>
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: Frank Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tapestry users
>
hard' questions;
- Original Message
From: Frank Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 20:51:35 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
Yeah, but mostly with people looking for help, and not so much people
helping.
Notice how quiet the rest of the thread
Another totally funny thread on Tapestry alias (the previous one was the
argument with Eric Hatcher about TDD and Ruby on Rails). I love Eclipse
but recently swithced to IntelliJ IDEA and love it even more. Anybody
not completely brain-dead will be able to take Kent's book and make all
work in
t: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:43 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
>
> At least it gives you proof of how active the mailing list is :)
>
> On 12/16/05, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wow, thanks to everyone for the in
ssage
From: Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users ; Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri Dec 16 17:25:02 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
What's wrong with something being eclipse oriented? I understand
there are folks out there who don't us
At least it gives you proof of how active the mailing list is :)
On 12/16/05, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, thanks to everyone for the information. I will take a look at
> http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/. As for the Eclipse vs. whatever IDE
> debate that my question started, I us
--- Pat
> -Original Message-
> From: Warren Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:14 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
>
> Wow, thanks to everyone for the information. I will take a look at
> http://www.agileskills
Wow, thanks to everyone for the information. I will take a look at
http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/. As for the Eclipse vs. whatever IDE
debate that my question started, I use Eclipse. It seems that a lot of
tutorials and books teach with Eclipse. If I were to write a Java book or
tutorial, I woul
Wrong guess, no chest pounding :)
It really helps quality of forums if people follow one
simple rule:
do not post anything that you would not say in person.
--- Eric Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder if you would dare to say it to my face?
>
> Nice. I can almost hear the ches
nstantin Ignatyev
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> > I wonder if you would dare to say it to my face?
>
> Nice. I can almost hear the chest pounding. Give us a break please.
>
> On 12/16/05, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To John (Dow?
hing else for that matter.
>
> - Original Message
> From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tapestry users
> Sent: Fri Dec 16 17:58:35 2005
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> You know, just dont read the book. Or just dont use Tapestry, cos a good
> book
rs
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
>
> To John (Dow?)
>
> The responce below seems to be typical for email accounts
> with names like this one [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :)
> I wonder if you would dare to say it to my face?
>
>
> To all others:
>
to know such things before spending time on book or
anything else for that matter.
- Original Message
From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 17:58:35 2005
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
You know, just dont read the book. Or just dont use Tapestry,
I am sorry, ".net running only on Windows ?"? Did you really say that? Good
comparison. How about EBCIDIC only running on IBM Mainframes.
-Original Message-
From: Cosmin Bucur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 12/16/2005 10:32 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Learnin
actor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
If it weren't for Eclipse, I'd be using Emacs (which isn't to say Emacs
is bad). :-)
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ignaty
IMO.
John
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From: "Konstantin Ignatyev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
> Can someone comment on that: I
If it weren't for Eclipse, I'd be using Emacs (which isn't to say Emacs
is bad). :-)
-Original Message-
From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:42 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Le
Maybe it's just that you hate Eclipse for some strange reason. As
Patrick says, giving examples in Eclipse is not so bad.
*But*, a book should avoid leaning too much on an IDE, because it will
spend too much time showing screenshots instead of teaching the
framework. But that's not about Eclip
bad to promote Eclipse IMO.
- Original Message
From: Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users ; Konstantin Ignatyev
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri Dec 16 17:25:02 2005
Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry
What's wrong with something being eclipse oriented? I
> -Original Message-
> From: Cosmin Bucur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> On 12/16/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Wh
iance, LLC
> -Original Message-
> From: Cosmin Bucur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:32 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
>
> On 12/16/05, Patrick Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> &g
ive instructions about some IDE stuff too, so
> Eclipse seems like the obvious choice.
>
> --- Pat
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:10 AM
> > To: Tapestry use
; To: Tapestry users
> Sent: Fri Dec 16 09:17:03 2005
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked is it
> starts with setting up Eclipse from scratch, so you start the exercises with
> things looking exactly the same.
>
me IDE stuff too, so
Eclipse seems like the obvious choice.
--- Pat
> -Original Message-
> From: Konstantin Ignatyev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
> Can someone commen
Sent: Fri Dec 16 09:17:03 2005
>Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
>Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked is it
>starts with setting up Eclipse from scratch, so you start the exercises with
>things looking exactly the same.
>
>Don't worry about the lear
Can someone comment on that: Is it Eclipce oriented?
Too bad if so.
- Original Message
From: John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tapestry users
Sent: Fri Dec 16 09:17:03 2005
Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked
16, 2005 5:08 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry
>
>
> We use this at my place. It is indespensible for tapestry 4 users.
>
> On 16/12/05, adasal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kent's book.
> > All the developers here are using i
We use this at my place. It is indespensible for tapestry 4 users.
On 16/12/05, adasal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kent's book.
> All the developers here are using it.
> Bear in mind that the picture you should have is of components and objects.
> They are defined in three places, html, page/comp
Kent's book.
All the developers here are using it.
Bear in mind that the picture you should have is of components and objects.
They are defined in three places, html, page/component specification
(slightly complicated by possible annotation instead), java. These three are
bound together in varying
Our developers also recommend Kents book. What they really liked is it
starts with setting up Eclipse from scratch, so you start the exercises with
things looking exactly the same.
Don't worry about the learning curve, I don't think it is much longer than
Struts to do the basic stuff. You'll get a
Hi,
I am sure you will buy Kent Tong's book after you read and work out
first four chapters http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/chapters1-4.pdf
And I am also sure you will change your opinion about the steep learning
curve of the Tapestry afterwards. I enjoyed reading the whole book. It
is rea
I'd sugest starting with Kent Tongs free tutorials for Tapestry 4 .
They got me going initially . I have not purchased his e-book yet but
i hear it's great and the price seems minimal considering the
information and value of tapestry in the field .
There are also other books but i don't think they
Kent's book is real good.
http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/
Serge.
Warren Bell wrote:
I am brand new to Tapestry and would like to know the best way to learn it.
I have gone threw the tutorials on this site for version 4 and have looked
at some other tutorials on version 3. Version 4 seems to
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