I switched from IDEA when i changed jobs and didn't have a license anymore , and it was then uncapable of dealing with jsp 2.0 . I spent some 30 $ on my eclipse , got a special that included uml tools .
I am now considering going back to IDEA , since i don't even use jsp anymore :) ( this is a tapestry ml afterall ) , and I know that I could probably get it to do everyhing i need to with some smart configuration . So far I've found nothing similar to the live templates and the velocity generation that IDea does . It did however bothered me that integration features are much slower to get done , especially when it comes to stuff like spring , hibernate or tapestry ... i mean evevn jsp 2.0 , took them a good year and a half - two years to implement it after the spec came out . I won't however , go back to IDEA before I get a new laptop , a 1.6 centrino with a 5600 rpm hd is definently NOT enough :) I might however give it a try asap , to see theese js and refactoring tools which you so highly speak off On 12/16/05, Sergei Dubov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's your Eclipse experience talking. :-) > > IDEA knows a lot in general and jsp 2.0 is particular. I'd pay $250 for > its JavaScript knowledge and refactoring capabilities alone. > > S. > > Cosmin Bucur wrote: > > does it know what jsp 2.0 is yet ? :) > > > > On 12/16/05, Sergei Dubov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>By the way, for anyone considering switching from Eclipse: > >> > >>http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/j_specials.html > >> > >>This one is worth it. > >> > >>Serge. > >> > >>Cosmin Bucur wrote: > >> > >>>i use eclipse :) > >>> > >>>On 12/16/05, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>It has been beaten before, but I let me bring question of forum again. > >>>> > >>>>This is an quite interesting feature in the Hibernate forum: > >>>>ranking answers and peole anwsering (based on number of useful answers > >>>>they gave). > >>>> > >>>>If it was possible to search among useful answers only, that would by > >>>>really sleek. > >>>> > >>>>I am wondering if we could migrate to such a forum and use the same > >>>>approach in Tapestry? > >>>> > >>>>Another feature that would be useful in such forum: find thread withoud > >>>>answers marked 'useful' - that might be wonderful tool that will allow > >>>>Tapestry experts to focus on 'hard' questions; > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ---- > >>>>From: Frank Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: Tapestry users <tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org> > >>>>Sent: Fri Dec 16 20:51:35 2005 > >>>>Subject: RE: Learning Tapestry > >>>> > >>>>Yeah, but mostly with people looking for help, and not so much people > >>>>helping. > >>>> > >>>>Notice how quiet the rest of the threads looking for real answers are... > >>>> > >>>>Frank Russo > >>>>Senior Developer > >>>>FX Alliance, LLC > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: Chris Chiappone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:43 PM > >>>>>To: Tapestry users > >>>>>Subject: Re: Learning Tapestry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>At least it gives you proof of how active the mailing list is :) > >>>>> > >>>>>On 12/16/05, Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Wow, thanks to everyone for the information. I will take a look at > >>>>>>http://www.agileskills2.org/EWDT/. As for the Eclipse vs. > >>>>> > >>>>>whatever IDE > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>debate that my question started, I use Eclipse. It seems > >>>>> > >>>>>that a lot of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>tutorials and books teach with Eclipse. If I were to write > >>>>> > >>>>>a Java book > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>or tutorial, I would go with the percentages and use > >>>>> > >>>>>Eclipse. I don't > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>think it is to hard to teach a beginner to set-up a minimal Eclipse > >>>>>>environment in order to teach them something. Learning a > >>>>> > >>>>>little bit of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Eclipse has not made it harder for myself to learn, but has made it > >>>>>>much easier. Switch to whatever IDE when you are done. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks again for everyone's help. This has gotten me quite > >>>>> > >>>>>motivated > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>to take on Tapestry. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>From: Warren Bell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:34 PM > >>>>>>>To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org > >>>>>>>Subject: Learning Tapestry > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I am brand new to Tapestry and would like to know the best way to > >>>>>>>learn it. I have gone threw the tutorials on this site > >>>>> > >>>>>for version 4 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>and have looked at some other tutorials on version 3. Version 4 > >>>>>>>seems to be much different than 3 and I am not sure which way I > >>>>>>>should go. I have not found to much on > >>>>>>>version 4 except for the users guide and it throws you > >>>>> > >>>>>right in the middle > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>of it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I am some what experienced in Struts and have played around with > >>>>>>>JSF. Tapestry looks real interesting to me, but the > >>>>> > >>>>>learning curve > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>seems a bit steep. What would be the best way to get up to speed > >>>>>>>with Tapestry? the > >>>>>> > >>>>>>percet > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Thanks,g > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Warren Bell > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>- > >>>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>> > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>> > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>__________ NOD32 1.1325 (20051215) Information __________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>>>>>http://www.eset.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>> > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>~chris > >>>>> > >>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
