Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with "ref" tag on ways vs relations

2012-07-30 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Paweł Paprota wrote: >> But what leads you to the assumption that the data get's better when we >> agree to only use ref on relations or only use ref on ways? > > Well my logic is simple - less duplication = less data to maintain = > more time mappers can spend on

Re: [Tagging] Data redundancy with "ref" tag on ways vs relations

2012-08-01 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > > I use mostly JOSM which has good relation support. But still it's a pain and > a challenge. Just downloading a huge relation takes too much time. No editor > can fix this because it's the nature of the data model. > > What's painful and ch

Re: [Tagging] US Speed Limits, truck routes, bike routes, access

2010-03-07 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Alan Mintz wrote: > > > 1. How should one tag "suggested" speeds (usually around curves) like > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_W1-4.svg with > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Advisory_Curve_Speed_English_25.svg ? > > Should I t

Re: [Tagging] US Speed Limits, truck routes, bike routes, access

2010-03-07 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 7 Mar 2010, at 12:17 , Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Apollinaris Schoell > wrote: > an average newbie mapper should be able to understand a tag without reading > tons of docu. > Josm, Potlatch support templates and could fill in the default values to make

Re: [Tagging] US Speed Limits, truck routes, bike routes, access

2010-03-08 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 8 Mar 2010, at 1:41 , Pieren wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Apollinaris Schoell > wrote: > and where did you read the let's put all available tags on all object? > > > But your message suggests that the editors should fill in the defaults for > us. Th

Re: [Tagging] Marking intersections complete

2010-03-14 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Dave F. wrote: > Alan Mintz wrote: > > I'm doing detailed surveying and tagging of intersection turn > restrictions. > > However, I'm not always able to safely get pics from all four directions > of > > a typical intersection, so I want to be able to know to go ba

Re: [Tagging] Ways that change names while crossing divided roadways

2010-04-26 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 24 Apr 2010, at 19:52 , Alan Mintz wrote: > > That's one solution. What I usually do is to bring the ways back together > to form a single intersection at that point, which is technically more > accurate anyway. Plus, there are usually turn restrictions that are easier > to deal with on a

Re: [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe

2010-05-03 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 3 May 2010, at 5:18 , Greg Troxel wrote: > > Katie Filbert writes: > >> * Baskin Robbins (fast food?) > > This is the missing ice cream shop I think. But if they serve other > food, it's made to order, and they have table service - restaurant. > >> * Fuddruckers (restaurant or fast food?

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Jun 2010, at 20:54 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: > So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn > at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop > around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the > sole reason through traffic wo

Re: [Tagging] new Key proposal: landcover

2010-10-07 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > Not everything in a national forest is covered by trees, yet the > standard way of tagging one is landuse=forest on an area. > > some tag it like this but this is entirely wrong. National forest defines the ownership but has nothing to d

Re: [Tagging] new Key proposal: landcover

2010-10-07 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > > That's why it's landuse=forest, not landcover=forest. A > landuse=residential area isn't all houses (it includes yards, > driveways, garages, streets, sidewalks) and a landuse=forest area > isn't all trees. > > still it isn't at all a

Re: [Tagging] "new" highway tag for small and informal footpaths; trail

2010-10-22 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 22 Oct 2010, at 9:11 , M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > Looking at a dictionary I found "trail" (for german "Trampelpfad"), > and helas: there is already a tag-page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrail > > It isn't very clear though and from the picture I'd say that is hig

Re: [Tagging] Super-relations or not (was: Relation member_roles from Osmosis import)

2010-10-28 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 28 Oct 2010, at 7:51 , Peter Budny wrote: > > To me, this says we really ought to be using super-relations for route > relations, rather than a single relation with roles tagged, for 2 > reasons: > yes, absolutely, the relation with role is very limited, one more reason is the checking tool

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] [OSM-dev] Super-relations or not

2010-10-29 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 29 Oct 2010, at 9:05 , Peter Budny wrote: > > P.P.S. Why do I see so many route relations where a way has been added > more than once, sometimes up to 5 times, with the same role? What is > that supposed to mean? typically an error. only use case where it makes sense is a bus route which so

Re: [Tagging] tagging no truck access in US

2010-11-19 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 19 Nov 2010, at 8:58 , Pieren wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:47 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > The hgv-class is defined for vehicles over 3.5 t, if your legislation > has different weight limits I'd suggest to introduce a different > value/key and document that on the access-page