Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=street_side

2020-10-27 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 26-10-2020 21:24, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > If parking is on both sides of the street, the parking area already > crosses the street, and even if it doesn't, logically the parking area > *does* connect to the street. I disagree with the argument that mapping > thus is somehow "wrong", and indee

[Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread SRZ
Hi all, I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for emergency vehicles. I found quite a few that are tagged as landuse=military which is in my opinion - the incorrect way. I would like to propose a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=street_side

2020-10-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Oct 2020, at 08:17, Jeroen Hoek wrote: > > Both approaches are valid because in OpenStreetMap everything is “valid”, but both approaches are not equally good. In this specific case, as soon as landuse=highway is mapped as an area, having connected the adjacent la

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=street_side

2020-10-27 Thread Jeroen Hoek
On 27-10-2020 09:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > because in OpenStreetMap everything is “valid”, but both approaches > are not equally good. In this specific case, as soon as > landuse=highway is mapped as an area, having connected the adjacent > landuses to the middle of the street will become ut

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 27. Oct 2020, at 09:35, Nüssli Christian > wrote: > I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. > That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for > emergency vehicles. > > I found quite a few that are tagged as landuse=

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi Christian On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:35, Nüssli Christian (SRZ) < christian.nues...@zuerich.ch> wrote: > I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas. > That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for > emergency vehicles. > Sorry, but what do you

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Robert Delmenico
I'm not sure what you're referring to but I'll put some options here to discuss: Fire districts: used for declaring total for bans in Australia https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/find-your-fire-district Neighbourhood safer places in Victoria - where you can go as a last resort in a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Supaplex
We (or Christian) are talking about areas that must be kept free, especially near buildings, so that fire brigade vehicles can stand and work there in case of an emergency. For example, it is not allowed to park there, no objects may be placed there etc. In German-speaking countries it is very comm

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=street_side

2020-10-27 Thread Supaplex
In this case you can simply use "parking:lane:right = parallel". Since it is a simple parking lane, it has nothing to do with street_side as suggested in the proposal. (The question is rather how to tag the bike lane - a suggestion is for example is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_fea

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex wrote: > We (or Christian) are talking about areas that must be kept free, > especially near buildings, so that fire brigade vehicles can stand and work > there in case of an emergency. > Thanks, Supa - it's not a concept that I've ever heard of in Australia

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Jonathon Rossi
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 12:02 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex wrote: > >> How about *"emergency = rescue_area"* (very rarely in use)? I agree that >> landuse should not be used in this case, but we have "emergency" for this. >> > As I say, I've never looked

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:20, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > We've got emergency=landing_site for helicopters, maybe just > emergency=parking? > I like that, areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Oct 28, 2020, 03:22 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 13:20, Jonathon Rossi <> j...@jonorossi.com> > wrote: > >> We've got emergency=landing_site for helicopters, maybe just >> emergency=parking? >> > > I like that, areas set aside for parking by emergency vehicles.  > ame

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread SRZ
Hello Supaplex Thank you very much for your explanation for others. It's exactly what I meant. It's areas especially designed for emergency vehicles, e.g a ladder which will reach most of the areas from a bulding. I think parking would be the wrong approach, because it's not really a parking, m

Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency

2020-10-27 Thread Tod Fitch
Sounds line what are signed as “fire lanes” in the United States. -- Sent from my phone, please forgive my brevity. > On Tuesday, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:59 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 at 09:43, Supaplex (mailto:supap...@riseup.net)> wrote: