On 15/10/2020 17:36, Jmapb via Tagging wrote:
I've always been surprised to see a footway=crossing/cycleway=crossing
way with the intersection node tagged as highway=crossing. There's
only a single physical crossing, so this seems contra to the
one-feature-one-element rule.
A highway=crossing no
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> On 18. Oct 2020, at 07:49, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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>> Generally, I would propose to only tag crossing =* on the crossing node, but
>> refrain from access like tags on this node (no bicycle or foot tags). The
>> access should be derived from the crossing ways.
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> On 18. Oct 2020, at 09:46, Emvee via Tagging
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> Routers do not need highway=crossing to detect crossings, every node
> where 3 or more ways connect is a crossing.
sure, but many highway=crossings are tagged on nodes where only 2 ways (or one
going through) con
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> On 18. Oct 2020, at 08:12, Joseph Eisenberg
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> Right now the suggestion on highway=bus_guideway is that other busways might
> be mapped highway=service + bus=designated + access=no. (See
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_guideway)
I have
Oct 18, 2020, 09:44 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
> On 15/10/2020 17:36, Jmapb via Tagging wrote:
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>> I've always been surprised to see a footway=crossing/cycleway=crossing
>> way with the intersection node tagged as highway=crossing. There's
>> only a single physical crossing, so this seems c
On 16/10/2020 09:06, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
It does not currently take any account of bicycle=no on a crossing,
not least because bicycle=no is a very problematic tag - generally
bicycle=dismount should be used instead, reserving bicycle=no for
those circumstances where even pushing a bike is n
Oct 18, 2020, 08:08 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com:
> There is an approved tag for bus guideways, where specially-designed buses
> are guided by a rail:
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> But how should ordinary busways be mapped? Right now the suggestion on
> highway=bus_guideway is that other busways might be mapped high
Oct 18, 2020, 10:01 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
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> Oct 18, 2020, 08:08 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com:
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>> There is an approved tag for bus guideways, where specially-designed buses
>> are guided by a rail:
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>> But how should ordinary busways be mapped? Right now the suggestion on
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> On 16. Oct 2020, at 09:32, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
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> generally bicycle=dismount should be used instead, reserving bicycle=no for
> those circumstances where even pushing a bike is not legal (e.g. most public
> footpaths in England & Wales).
most bicycle=no tags out t
Oct 18, 2020, 09:58 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> On 18. Oct 2020, at 08:12, Joseph Eisenberg
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>> Right now the suggestion on highway=bus_guideway is that other busways might
>> be mapped highway=service + bus=designated + access=no. (See >>
>> https:
Imagine I would add hgv=no or motorcycle=no tags to
pedestrian crossings
Is there a case where hgv use sidewalk together with pedestrians
and cross road using crossing shared with a pedestrians?
Is there a case of sidewalk where hgv are allowed but on crossing
w
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> On 18. Oct 2020, at 10:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
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> One more note: in some cases only specific buses are allowed (for example,
> only public transport
> buses operated by a municipal company, with private buses not allowed).
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> In such case bus=private
Oct 18, 2020, 10:17 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> On 16. Oct 2020, at 09:32, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
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>> generally bicycle=dismount should be used instead, reserving bicycle=no for
>> those circumstances where even pushing a bike is not legal (e.g. most public
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On 18/10/2020 07:46, Volker Schmidt wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 09:46, Martin Koppenhoefer
mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Generally, I would propose to only tag crossing =* on the crossing
node, but refrain from access like tags on this node (no bicycle
or foot tags). The a
Oct 18, 2020, 10:27 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
> On 18/10/2020 07:46, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 09:46, Martin Koppenhoefer <>>
>> dieterdre...@gmail.com>> > wrote:
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>>> Generally, I would propose to only tagcrossing =* on
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Oct 18, 2020, 10:20 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
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> Imagine I would add hgv=no or motorcycle=no tags to
> pedestrian crossings
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Is there a case where hgv use sidewalk together with
pedestrians and cross road using crossing shared with a
Oct 18, 2020, 10:20 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> On 18. Oct 2020, at 10:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
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>> One more note: in some cases only specific buses are allowed (for example,
>> only public transport
>> buses operated by a municipal company, w
Oct 18, 2020, 01:53 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
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>> On 17. Oct 2020, at 21:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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>> Nevertheless some crossings were mapped using highway=cycleway and
>> bicycle=no on crossing
>> nodes, probably because it is much less fiddly to map it.
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, at 2:41 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> And all this effort achieve what?
The liberation of all people from from gender roles 🙂
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Love this proposal!
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:11 PM Rory McCann wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, at 2:41 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> > And all this effort achieve what?
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> The liberation of all people from from gender roles 🙂
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This proposal requires the retagging of over 3 million objects, breaks
every existing rendering, editor and a huge amount of documentation in
order to replace a term already generally considered gender neutral and
easily found in dictionaries (including bilingual ones) with more awkward
phrasing th
Yeah changing this is a multi-year project, and *definitely* not something one
does auomatically.
On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, at 11:42 AM, Alan Mackie wrote:
> This proposal requires the retagging of over 3 million objects, breaks
> every existing rendering, editor and a huge amount of documentation in
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> On 18. Oct 2020, at 12:39, Rory McCann wrote:
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> Yeah changing this is a multi-year project,
generations...
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Here's an example of an exclusive busway, which is only used by the Orange
Line / G Line bus service in suburban Los Angeles:
https://media.metro.net/riding/images/LinePage_orange_line_header.jpg
The busway is a 2-lane paved surface which is exclusively for public
transit buses. There is a parall
Hi
Le dim. 18 oct. 2020 Ã 16:25, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 18. Oct 2020, at 12:39, Rory McCann wrote:
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> > Yeah changing this is a multi-year project,
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> generations...
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Certainly, with the current tagging control plane.
That would only took ~3 or 4
Am So., 18. Okt. 2020 um 20:25 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> Here's an example of an exclusive busway, which is only used by the Orange
> Line / G Line bus service in suburban Los Angeles:
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> https://media.metro.net/riding/images/LinePage_orange_line_header.jpg
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 20:39, Rory McCann wrote:
> *definitely* not something one does auomatically.
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But would it be so impossible? (Not suggesting that it should actually be
done!)
Couldn't a bot be set to simply find all cases of man_made=, regardless of
what it is, & change them to human_m
Doing this would make over 3M objects have their date updated to the
present, when the last meaningful change may have been over 5 years ago.
It creates the illusion of data being up-to-date when all that was changed
was a tag key.
On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, 22:02 Graeme Fitzpatrick,
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Am So., 18. Okt. 2020 um 23:02 Uhr schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick <
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> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 20:39, Rory McCann wrote:
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>> *definitely* not something one does auomatically.
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> But would it be so impossible? (Not suggesting that it should actually be
> done!)
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> Couldn't
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> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 20:39, Rory McCann <> r...@technomancy.org> > wrote:
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>> *definitely* not something one does auomatically.
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> But would it be so impossible? (Not suggesting that it should actually be
> done!)
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> Couldn't a bo
Hi,
On 10/18/20 23:08, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> And the same applies to brains of people
It appears to me that the end game in this is precisely that, to change
the brains of people. OSM is just a means to and end in that quest.
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Frederik
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Thanks everyone - all makes sense!
Graeme
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Some great points here. Good to hear the points of views of all of you.
Look forward to hearing more feedback.
Kind regards,
Rob
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, 9:19 am Graeme Fitzpatrick,
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> Thanks everyone - all makes sense!
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Putting appart this 'man' vs 'human' debate...This reminds me a thinking I regularly have in minds: OSM shall have a way to tell all (registered) data users that "starting from /mm/dd following major change in the database will be applied following vote xxx from OSM community. Please see draw
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