Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Markus Peloso
Hi Hauke, Thank you for your support and contributions. Clarity and transparency are important to me. 1.) I'm also not a native English speaker. I have translated the German word "Sachspende". I improve the definition, add a link to a wikipedia article and add a section for translations and sy

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, My 2 cts : key actuator and especially actuator=hydraulic_cyclinder or pneumatic_cylinder values are suitable for movable bollards (pchtt noise when bollards go up and down means actuator=pneumatic_cylinder for instance) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:actuator bollard=unremov

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Hi, Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but four times less. So I guess you can document the value. (And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.) I would like to add that there's a common type in Pari

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - Tax free shopping

2020-02-16 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi all, thanks for all the feedback and voting. The proposal for tax free shopping and the "duty_free" tag has been approved: 13 votes, 2 against, 1 abstain. Currently there's a discussion ongoing about the calculation when there are "abstain" votes. So here are some approval calculations all lea

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Steve Doerr
On 15/02/2020 16:56, Markus Peloso wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation For a place that takes in-kind donations. Hi I describe a tag for shop and amenity that takes in-kind donations. I'm interested in your opinions. My immediate reaction is that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Steve Doerr
On 15/02/2020 17:44, Hauke Stieler wrote: 1.) I'm not a native English spearker and personally never heard of "in-kind donations" before, so maybe a short description/definition might be needed/helpful. 'In kind' in relation to payments or similar means 'consisting of goods or services, not mo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - Tax free shopping

2020-02-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 16 feb 2020, alle ore 13:42, Hauke Stieler > ha scritto: > > Hi all, > > thanks for all the feedback and voting. The proposal for tax free > shopping and the "duty_free" tag has been approved: 13 votes, 2 against, > 1 abstain. > > Currently there's a discussio

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 16 feb 2020, alle ore 14:23, Steve Doerr > ha scritto: > > My immediate reaction is that this sounds like a very similar concept to > 'give box', which was the subject of a recent RFC. Do we need two ways of > tagging such similar things? likely yes, because

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Jez Nicholson
Looking at Taginfo I'm now in an existential crisis over the 124 bollards that are simultaneously not bollards "bollard":"no". C'eci n'est pas un bollard? On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 11:31 Florimond Berthoux, wrote: > Hi, > > Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values > unremov

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Volker Schmidt
I found 106 of these in France, but it looks that that 104 of these are indications that "there is no bollard" on highway=crossing. None of them is tagged barrier=bollard and bollard=no. On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 17:05, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Looking at Taginfo I'm now in an existential crisis over

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 13:21 +, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 15/02/2020 16:56, Markus Peloso > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation > > > > For > >

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable Bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
I sympathise with you in your existential crisis. I found 2 instances of "bollard=no" in te UK and found that they are next to each other and part of a set of 3 bollards.  The third is tagged "bollard=fixed".  So perhaps the 2 "bollard=no" are meant to be "bollard =not_fixed", or perhaps "bollar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 2/16/2020 8:21 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: On 15/02/2020 16:56, Markus Peloso wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation For a place that takes in-kind donations. My immediate reaction is that this sounds like a very similar concept to 'give box', which was

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

2020-02-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 16 feb 2020, alle ore 19:07, Jmapb via Tagging > ha scritto: > > It's similar to recycling but implies that the goods are reused rather than > used as raw materials. Personally I feel this is a bit of a continuum and I > don't see a problem with tagging in-kind

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread ET Commands
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:22:11 +0100 From: François Lacombe To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards Hi all, My 2 cts : key actuator and especially actuator=hydraulic_cyclinder or pneumatic_cylinder values are suitable

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 20:54, ET Commands wrote: > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 11:22:11 +0100 > > From: François Lacombe > > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > My 2 cts : key actuat

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Warin
On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote: Hi, Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but four times less. So I guess you can document the value. (And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.) I w

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:53, ET Commands wrote: > > bollard=unremovable for fixed bollards sounds good to me. > > My spelling check does not like "unremovable" but instead suggests > "irremovable." However, if I want to be nit-picky, all bollards are > ultimately removable, so maybe more appropr

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 16:51, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Umm... > > Bollards are there to protect people. With the present threats I would think > identifying which bollards could be easily driven through on a public > map/data base would be a bad idea. > > > So I would be firmly agai

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/2/20 8:52 am, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:53, ET Commands wrote: bollard=unremovable for fixed bollards sounds good to me. My spelling check does not like "unremovable" but instead suggests "irremovable." However, if I want to be nit-picky, all bollards are ultimat

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Florimond Berthoux
So I guess you'll be against mapping roads also ? 1.35 millions deaths, that something to consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate Le dim. 16 févr. 2020 à 22:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
What I've been wondering with regard to this whole topic is whether you would also need to add an entry for who can remove the bollard? Would that be covered by access=xxx ? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 08:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 17/2/20 8:52 am, Jarek Piórkowsk

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 17:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you want, then another key so the above does not get polluted? > > bollard_structure=block/post/* bollard_structure=block would surely be better off as a barrier=block? That's already well established. ___

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Volker Schmidt
These things may just damage cars, but they definitely hurt cyclists and pedestrians when they hit them. They are often badly visible and their only purpose, at least here in Italy, to discourage car owners from entering cycle or foot paths. I know personally of cyclists who ended up in hospital.

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, > I too prefer 'fixed'. > > Foldable, is also in some sense irremovable/unremovable (spell check objects) > where as I think 'fixed' is a better description as it implies not foldable, > removeable nor lowerable. I was starting to write a whole page why I don't like "fixed" instead of "un

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Warin
On 17/2/20 10:26 am, Hauke Stieler wrote: Hi, I too prefer 'fixed'. Foldable, is also in some sense irremovable/unremovable (spell check objects) where as I think 'fixed' is a better description as it implies not foldable, removeable nor lowerable. I was starting to write a whole page why I

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

2020-02-16 Thread Warin
A fair few people die in these places; hospitals private homes 'retirement villages' If I knew where I was going to die.. i would not go there. On 17/2/20 9:15 am, Florimond Berthoux wrote: So I guess you'll be against mapping roads also ? 1.35 millions deaths, that something to consider http

[Tagging] Horse yards / corrals

2020-02-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
What do we call fenced off yards that are used to hold horses (or other stock, for that matter) temporarily? This was one that I spotted the other day https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?relation=6007743#map=19/-36.41691/148.61436 They are the yards at the local show grounds where horses are kept

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-16 Thread European Water Project
Tomorrow is the last day of voting. The proposal has positive support .. 10 + and 2 Abs There are two comments which are worth noting : 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess there are voiced o