Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting -, boundary=aboriginal_lands

2018-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Nov 2018, at 00:27, Doug Hembry wrote: > > >> +1 (mostly). The boundary=protected_area scheme allows rough/detail > >> tagging to some degree, I think. I presume you can specify b=p_area > >> without adding p_class if you wish yes, you can do it, but then the tag

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. Nov 2018, at 04:27, AgusQui wrote: > > We consider it as generic for any type of entrance arch IMHO this is tagging for the renderer. You set the artwork bar incredibly low with this. Why not call them “entrance_arch” or maybe “welcome_sign”? Or even both of them

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
What key would you recommend, Martin? Man_made=entrance_arch? barrier=...? Highway=...? Entrance=welcome_sign? On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:19 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 29. Nov 2018, at 04:27, AgusQui wrote: > > > > We consider it as generic for any type of ent

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 30/11/18 20:12, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: What key would you recommend, Martin? Man_made=entrance_arch? Not all are entrances, some mark the centre. No all are aches? An arch is a curved structure - some are rectangular .. portals? That is not right either. barrier=...? no Highway=...?

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Yeah, that was how my thought process went too. Maybe there is no perfect tag for these. On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 8:26 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 30/11/18 20:12, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > What key would you recommend, Martin? > > Man_made=entrance_arch? > > > Not all are entranc

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Tod Fitch
I’ve mapped by placing a way across the road tagged with: man_made=gantry name=“whatever” place=neighbourhood I suppose one could add some sort of tagging indicating the vertical clearance that might be of use for routing. > On Nov 30, 2018, at 3:48 AM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Yeah, th

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
Seems very good to me. * already used: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gantry * proposal exist: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gantry In the proposal I don't like very much the way to indicate clearence, maxheight:physical=* (/what? opposed to...  maxhe

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
No, wait, I disagree with the "place=neighbourhood" thing! See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place Cheers! On 2018-11-30 18:10, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Seems very good to me. > > * already used: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/m

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
What do you think about this?     man_made=gantry     name=“name_of_the_neighbourood”     usage=welcome_sign /usage /is used mainly for railways but it is a so generic and useful term that I don't think it should be "/hijacked/" by railways. /welcome_sign/ is already used for board_type in info

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Tod Fitch
One of the listed values of the place tag is “neighbourhood”. And, in the one case where I mapped such a overhead sign, it was the entrance to a neighborhood. It was, in fact, the location you’d be taken to by the motor-rickshaw from the metro station when you gave your destination and was part

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
I understand what you mean (/and it reminds me of my first arrival in India, to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!/), but I still think place=neighbourood on the way identifing the gantry is wrong. Please let me explain why. A neighbourood occupy an "area", so you should either define t

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
Oh, and, BTW, by doing that the neighbourood will not suddenly disappear if they ever take down the gantry...  :-) On 2018-11-30 21:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > I understand what you mean (/and it reminds me of my first arrival in India, > to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!/), but I s

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
OK, so man_made=gantry, or in some cases =archway, works for "things" crossing over the road :-) But how about vertical posts at the side of the road eg https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0957659,153.4425762,3a,29y,283.97h,94.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR3ht8iVkS_WU17vUqFuCgw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 ? Guide

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
Doh... every day harder... :-) I'd say information=board + board_type=welcome_sign look at it here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:board_type Cheers! On 2018-11-30 23:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > OK, so man_made=gantry, or in some cases =archway, works for "things" > crossing over

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 29/11/18 22:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: *At the end of the day... I think this proposal has same serious issues: the use of an antenna system can be decided only if you have internal knowledge of what it is actually used for, not just looking at the antenna.  Also, either we define a very broa

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 08:26, Sergio Manzi wrote: > Doh... every day harder... :-) > What, you want easy??? :-) > I'd say information=board + board_type=welcome_sign > > look at it here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:board_type > That sort of works, but do we need something to say it'

[Tagging] Astronomy telescopes vs tourist terrestrial telescopes

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
Hi I think I have come across tourist terrestrial telescopes tagged as man_made=telescope. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5627184804 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5627184805 While this is technically correct it gets rendered as an astronomy telescope. Should this be better mapped as

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > That sort of works, but do we need something to say it's a big rock, or >> cement column? >> > The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the point where even the obsessive classifiers on this list might as well admit that

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Sergio Manzi
This! This! This! :-) On 2018-12-01 00:12, Kevin Kenny wrote: > The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the point where even > the obsessive classifiers on this list might as well admit that even if they > do introduce a taxonomy, it is likely that no data consumer will use it. 

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 10:12, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: That sort of works, but do we need something to say it's a big rock, or cement column? The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the poi

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 09:49, Warin wrote: On 29/11/18 22:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: *At the end of the day... I think this proposal has same serious issues: the use of an antenna system can be decided only if you have internal knowledge of what it is actually used for, not just looking at the antenna.  A

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:50 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately mappers will map things as they see them. And some will want > to add more and more detail. > Keeping that detail in some order is what I am on about here. At present > it is all going into antenna:type, system, p

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 11:38, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:50 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Unfortunately mappers will map things as they see them. And some will >> want to add more and more detail. >> > > Equally on point, though, is that we need a way to keep thi

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 13:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 11:38, Kevin Kenny > wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:50 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Unfortunately mappers will map things as they se

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread AgusQui
For nothing was for the render, when we decided, almost 6 years ago, artwork was not rendered by Mapnik or any application, we decided on the basis of the tags approved at that time, inventing the sub-tag city_entrance. If now they want to discuss the correct tag, great!. Regarding a simple welcome