Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

sent from a phone > On 6. Nov 2018, at 08:34, Anton Klim wrote: > > In the absence of a better tag I used office=company, but could see something > like office=visa(_services) being suitable. just use a more specific tag, and possibly document it (e.g. as a proposal). Cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timetable, as they always use the service they may memorize the schedules ... ? Julien Le lun. 5 nov. 2018 à 17:08, Jo a écrit : > Hi Leif, > > You made me do it! :-) I sort of stole your proposal and started creating > a new one. It differs in rathe

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

In order to reduce the length of the value of the departures= tag, should we allow this kind of abstraction level : departures=5:35 ; 6:35 ; [7-19]:[05;35] ; 20:35 ; 21:35 ? Julien « djakk » Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 15:41, djakk djakk a écrit : > Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timet

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

I’ll agree with Leif, having a timetable relation per stop is better. Yes Leif, there can be a delay expressed in minutes instead of an arrival-departure pair of time. Julien « djakk » Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:04, djakk djakk a écrit : > In order to reduce the length of the value of the dep

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

... and/or an abbreviation with the frequency : departures=5:15 - 1:25 every 1:30 ~ 3 minutes (This is for Rennes’ subway line) Julien « djakk » Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:07, djakk djakk a écrit : > I’ll agree with Leif, having a timetable relation per stop is better. > > > Yes Leif, there can

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

You mean per stop/route pair? That's an incredible s amount of relations! It seems to me that it would be a nighmare to try and maintain it that way. At first sight it seems simpler, but with the new proposal i came up with, you can see how the stops of a variation in itinerary tie together. If th

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Almost that ! Sometimes bus stops does not have their official timetable, the user have to refer to the closest previous bus stop having an official timetable. So this kind of bus stop may not have a timetable in osm (except an osm mapper really wants to put it into osm, knowing per habits the sche

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

I think it is important to have an osm object describing the timetable user-oriented for simple editing without any tool. The mapper is at a bus stop, takes a picture of the timetable, can import it later in osm without the need of any extra tool. Validator can be inside a tool. Julien « djakk »

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

In which case a timetable per stop and per route is unmaintable ? Julien “djakk” Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 16:59, djakk djakk a écrit : > I think it is important to have an osm object describing the timetable > user-oriented for simple editing without any tool. > The mapper is at a bus stop, takes

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

If you have a single one for a stop/route pair, no problem. As soon as you have a few hundred and the information in them starts to conflict with other another timetable relation for the same route it will be extremely hard to figure out where it went wrong. Polyglot Op di 6 nov. 2018 om 17:08 sc

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

I don’t get it ... With my point of view, one route with 15 stops has 15 timetables, each timetable describes the arrival time and the departure time of several trips at the stop. There must be the same number of trips along the stops’ timetables. (Otherwise this is an other route). You mean, if

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Yes, very hard to debug and we already established some change every few months. So after a change from the operator. One traveler will update one of those schedules, Another may do so for 3 stops down the line, in the mean time the stops in between and after are not updated yet. A maintenance nigh

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Ok I see. I am still a bit reluctant to your proposal since the travelling time between 2 stops can vary during the day, especially for train routes. Ok there is the possibility of adding a new timetable relation ... Moreover, I think that data inputs from the ground can not be done with your pro

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Are you looking for a general transit feed specification? :) Yves Le 6 novembre 2018 20:22:18 GMT+01:00, djakk djakk a écrit : >Ok I see. > >I am still a bit reluctant to your proposal since the travelling time >between 2 stops can vary during the day, especially for train routes. >Ok there is

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

Indeed, a mapper who wants to add this and who can't find the information on the internet or in a booklet, would have travel to the first stop, take note of all the departure times and then establish the deltas between all the stops of the itinerary. If that's the case, such a mapper would probably

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

:) Le mar. 6 nov. 2018 à 20:55, Yves a écrit : > Are you looking for a general transit feed specification? > :) > > Yves > > Le 6 novembre 2018 20:22:18 GMT+01:00, djakk djakk > a écrit : >> >> Ok I see. >> >> I am still a bit reluctant to your proposal since the travelling time >> between 2 st

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

Tourist visas are handled by different offices - usually at airports. While they may all be "visas" - tourist/guest 90 day visas or an 8h transit Visa are treated very differently than any other visa that allows you to reside in the country- work, student, spouse, etc visas require office visi

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

The case I have is; 1) this is a commercial firm - not a government authority/branch/department/etc 2) it 'assist' people to obtain a visa 3) it is not at an airport/seaport/boarder 4) the visa is obtained before travel commences. 5) it is not within the country where the visa is used What oth

Re: [Tagging] Public Transport Timetables

sent from a phone > On 6. Nov 2018, at 15:41, djakk djakk wrote: > > Martin, maybe locals do know their bus stop timetable, as they always use the > service they may memorize the schedules ... ? there are no timetables and the service is notoriously bad and infrequent, while management sca

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

I think I have firmed up on office=government with either government=constituency_office or government=politicians_office I'll start a proposal page .. I'd like a vote on which one, or if there are any other ideas for a government= something else.

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

Yep, that's the use case I was describing with VFS, I think people here might be conflating/confusing it with an immigration office, where you'd usually go when you already have a visa. I'm not sure about adding a lower-level company= key, but all for office=visa/visa_services. Ant 06.11.20

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

On 03/11/18 12:22, Warin wrote: Hi, There are some 13 with the tag diplomatic=visa that may fall under this same cloud. I have confirmed that these commercial firms., mostly VFS.global. None of these are governmental. I have re tagged them as office=company company=visa and where a

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:45 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think I have firmed up on > > office=government > > with either > > government=constituency_office > or > government=politicians_office > I assume you're thinking of elected representatives. Because they're usually the on

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 07/11/18 11:01, Paul Allen wrote: On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:45 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: I think I have firmed up on office=government with either government=constituency_office or government=politicians_office I assu

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 09:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > and where applicable > > visa:country=* from country=* > Just to clarify the country tags thanks Warin? Maybe a bad example but you're travelling from Australia to UK so it would be visa:country=UK from country=Australia, or v

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 10:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As the subject title says " tagging for an office of the local > representative to parliament"? > Note different places may use different words to describe their > 'parliament' and/or 'local representative' > Maybe change the

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

On 07/11/18 12:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 09:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: and where applicable visa:country=* from country=* Just to clarify the country tags thanks Warin? Maybe a bad example but you're travell

Re: [Tagging] tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament

On 07/11/18 12:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 10:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: As the subject title says " tagging for an office of the local representative to parliament"?  Note different places may use different wor

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tramtrack on highway

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:59 AM SelfishSeahorse wrote: > Anyway, i'm wondering why tram tracks that are embedded in a street are > mapped with separate ways instead of reusing the street way? Separating > them seems topologically wrong. Putting the centerline of the rails somewhere other than t

[Tagging] Government Archives

Just look at the key government the first thing to strike me was archive, the key is meant to be used with office. I don't think of government archives as offices... so what is in the data base? Well for Kew, UK building=government with amenity=public_building There are quite a few archives

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

Hi all, after reading the last comments in this thread I tried again to convince Dave that the rather special rules for multipolygon relations cannot be used for all types of relations, esp. not those with route=pipeline and that he should not remove tags like man_made=pipeline from ways of such a

Re: [Tagging] Government Archives

I used office=government government=archive for these. Meaning of the office key is a bit wider for government offices, so I don’t really see an issue. On your best practice example, I don’t remember the government value for the building key, not sure we should make that a thing. Amenity=public

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

It's true. Gerd and I have gone round and .around on this topic. Gerd has tried to convince me that I should not remove any tags of the ways contained in the existing Alaska pipeline relation and I'm convinced that the only tags that belong on those ways are the ones that make that particular way d

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

PS: Gerd and I are not at war here. We just don't agree on the correct way to proceed. In fact, I have had lots of help from him when developing maps for my Garmin and will need his help in the future, no doubt. Maybe to convince him to write the code in mkgmap to better "see inside" relations to