Re: [Tagging] access:disabled... yes or designated?

huh. I thought i read about it needing to be access:disabled... however i feel like this should be quoted: "Nodes and areas tagged with amenity =parking_space and parking_space

Re: [Tagging] use of points even when it clearly defines a building?

in that case wouldn't it make more sense to just put start_date:building so there was just one object with the same information? obviously if there's multiple uses for the building then the use of points makes sense until someone maps the actual polygons On 08/17/18 00:19, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

i understand that, i was giving a less 'political' example, because if the OP feels they shouldn't be mapped, then discussion needs to be sensitive too. i meant more not mentioning them specifically here... for the same reason in the sentence before. On 08/17/18 00:31, Warin wrote: On 1

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

I was thinking more if a specific crime happens often enough to be attributed to a street/building. by overlaid I'm guessing you mean as in third party like mentioned earlier? On 08/17/18 00:36, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 08/16/2018 02:32 PM, seirra wrote: Hello, i was wondering whether there

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

in that particular example, i'm referring to where just having your phone visible is enough to lead to theft? (i don't know if it was exclusively phones, it was a warning from a local) money and cars are probably other examples of what could be mapped though. On 08/17/18 00:22, Martin Koppenh

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

This kind of man-made structure for water transportation is very frequent in Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands and Mediterranean countries. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levada Now most of them are tagged with waterway=ditch. As long as I now, they could be used not only for irrigation b

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 18:20, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > On Thursday 16 August 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > The canal definition was changed in March 2018, before it said to use > > canal only for „the largest waterways created for irrigation > > purposes“ > > Yes, that was the obvio

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Friday 17 August 2018, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: > This kind of man-made structure for water transportation is very > frequent in Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands and Mediterranean > countries. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levada Yes, levadas are a good example for the kind of st

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > Actually, it's only drain that doesn't seem to make sense > semantically, but ditch seems to be fine for smaller canals used for > drainage and irrigation, at least according to the definitions by > Wikipedia[^1] and the Cambridge Dicti

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Friday 17 August 2018, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > > > Yes, that was the obvious attempt to expand the narrow scheme to > > other parts of the world in a superficial way oriented at the > > standard style rendering but not at the actual semantics. > > Actually, it's only drain that doesn't seem t

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

A brook is bigger than a stream. A beck, or Clough, is the same as a brook, just a different regional dialect. But true a stream will turn into a brook will turn into a river. Phil (trigpoint) On 17 August 2018 12:40:38 BST, Paul Allen wrote: >On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM, SelfishSeahorse

[Tagging] Car pound, tow pound etc.

When the police impounds a wrongly parked vehicle, it takes it to a managed parking facility where they keep it until the infraction is resolved. How should we tag that place ? There are single digit numbers of amenity=pound, amenity=car_pound and amenity=tow_pound - that seems very little conside

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

Creek is certainly used in Essex. Phil (trigpoint) On 17 August 2018 12:40:38 BST, Paul Allen wrote: >On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:16 PM, SelfishSeahorse >> wrote: > >> >> Actually, it's only drain that doesn't seem to make sense >> semantically, but ditch seems to be fine for smaller canals used

[Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

what should a games room (think things like darts, pool/snooker, card games) be tagged as? when i looked around i couldn't seem to find any official consensus or unofficial for that matter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lis

[Tagging] double doors?

should these be split into two separate door elements, or should it be tagged as just a really wide door? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > Creek is certainly used in Essex. > I didn't say it wasn't used. Or even that it wasn't used to denote a wide stream. However, it also has other meanings. Such as a wide tidal bay to a marsh on an estuary. Like one near me. It's as wid

Re: [Tagging] Car pound, tow pound etc.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > When the police impounds a wrongly parked vehicle, it takes it to a > managed parking facility where they keep it until the infraction is > resolved. How should we tag that place ? > How about landuse=depot? -- Paul _

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 13:04 +0100, seirra wrote: > what should a games room (think things like darts, pool/snooker, > card  > games) be tagged as? when i looked around i couldn't seem to find > any  > official consensus or unofficial for that matter > I would say they are not normally standalone

Re: [Tagging] Car pound, tow pound etc.

I’d strongly prefer not to use `landuse` for this. These facilities are sometimes indoor garages. (Anytime we use `landuse` for something that might also be mapped a building or POI, we’re doing it wrong.) `amenity=impound` makes sense to me. Here is some more information about the process:

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

Probably `leisure=amusement_arcade`, which is not great but the best tag we have. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Damusement_arcade Thanks, Bryan > On Aug 17, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > On Fr

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra wrote: > hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking > more about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal > activities people may want to avoid(to the point there are regular police > patrols at night)? also places wh

Re: [Tagging] use of points even when it clearly defines a building?

On 8/16/2018 6:39 PM, seirra wrote:  if a floor of a building is for example: a store at the bottom of the building, and the rest is apartments... shouldn't it then be a building labelled as a chemist, with the tag level=0 and at the same point on the map, a building labelled as apartments wit

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

There might be a case for tagging with club=sport + sport=[darts/billiards/etc.]. The wiki also lists club=card_games as a possibility. Whether or not these places seem like "clubs" to you, you'll have to decide for yourself! J On 8/17/2018 8:04 AM, seirra wrote: what should a games room (thi

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

On 08/17/2018 08:37 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Probably `leisure=amusement_arcade`, which is not great but the best > tag we have. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Damusement_arcade > I would tend to think this i

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

there can be notable areas though, outside of what may usually be expected On 08/17/18 16:03, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra > wrote: hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more about areas that

Re: [Tagging] tagging a gamesroom?

this was more somewhere with a dedicated room really On 08/17/18 14:29, Philip Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 13:04 +0100, seirra wrote: what should a games room (think things like darts, pool/snooker, card games) be tagged as? when i looked around i couldn't seem to find any official con

Re: [Tagging] double doors?

On 17.08.2018 14:10, seirra wrote: > should these be split into two separate door elements, or should it be > tagged as just a really wide door? Assuming we're talking about a hinged door with multiple wings, there's a proposed door:wings key with 178 uses at the time of writing. Using that, you w

Re: [Tagging] double doors?

oh okay! i've never heard of the term wings before for doors so i wouldn't know. it's something that here is commonly called a 'french door' (i don't know why, it is literally just two doors making a wider doorway). i'll try that then On 08/17/18 17:20, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 17.08.2018 14:1

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

Then you're just splitting class and race hairs. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 11:20 seirra wrote: > there can be notable areas though, outside of what may usually be expected > > On 08/17/18 16:03, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 16:35 seirra wrote: > >> hmmm i do see the point there

[Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Friday, August 17, 2018, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Friday 17 August 2018, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > > > Of course we could just use width=*, but it's not always easily > > possible to measure the width (e.g. in a forest) and sometimes it > > changes often. > > I would translate this into "i

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

well like i said, i meant more for specific things that aren't just generalisations where it may actively  prevent you from doing something or where it is a regular occurrence. i don't personally see the race/class related aspect, but as previously said i respect that others feel it is there an

[Tagging] residents only after hours

I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after hours. Or more precisely, it's signed "Open to the public Oct 1 - Apr 30 7am-8pm, May 1 - Sep 30 7am-10:30pm." My best guess at tagging is: access=yes access:conditi

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

Oops, sorry to self-reply, should be: access=yes access:conditional=destination @ (Oct-Apr: 20:00-07:00; May-Sep: 22:30-07:00) On 8/17/2018 4:56 PM, Jmapb wrote: I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after ho

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

On Friday 17 August 2018, SelfishSeahorse wrote: > [...] You can't measure its width on site (because you don't have the > equipment or because the soil at its sides is marshy), but you know > (estimate) that it's wider than 1 metre, but less wide than 3 metres. If you know it is wider than 1m and

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

What areas are "dangerous" is very much a matter of race and class in the USA and likely in many other parts of the world. For example, there are wealthy mostly-white neighborhoods in many American suburbs where a person-of-color just walking or driving through is cause for residents to (injustly)

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

It would not be that hard to add a precision to a measurement. Any measurement. Maybe there already is a standard method for that? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 17 aug. 2018 om 20:50 heeft SelfishSeahorse > het volgende geschreven: > >> On Friday, August 17, 2018, Christoph Hormann wrote: >> On Fr

Re: [Tagging] access:disabled... yes or designated?

sent from a phone > On 17. Aug 2018, at 09:45, seirra wrote: > > is parking_space even a valid tag though?(i can't see any documentation) it is a tag for a single parking space. it is documented: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

What you are trying to refer to is 'measurement uncertainty'. For a non professional rough guide; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_uncertainty Naturally formed water way widths may have a great deal of variation along their widths .. and so the uncertainty will be very high unless spe

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 16:17 Adam Franco wrote: > > Another "risk" case would be an area where a civil war or conflict has > divided who controls what land. Either side of the line of control may be > incredibly risky for people affiliated with the other side but not to the > supporters of those i