Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 16:27, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/07/18 13:02, Warin wrote: Voting stopped due to removal of section. That was my bad. I'd been confused when I found three voting sections on the page. From your email I had been expecting to vote twice, but when I found three sections and notic

Re: [Tagging] US Forest Service (USDA) and logging

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 10:25, Michael Patrick wrote: > Apparently areas used for logging-related purposes are not to be mapped in > OSM .. there are no tags available for this land use. > We simply cannot map them. > Well, this complicates things for the US, most national forests

[Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=reservoir OSM defined as "A reservoir

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 18/07/18 13:02, Warin wrote: Will restart after correction. I've just had another look at the text of the third vote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/ephemeral&oldid=1628343#Optional_voting_on_requesting_mappers_to_add_intermittent.3Dyes_to_the_key_ephemer

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 17:44, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/07/18 13:02, Warin wrote: Will restart after correction. I've just had another look at the text of the third vote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/ephemeral&oldid=1628343#Optional_voting_on_requesting_mappers_t

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land > artificially graded to hold water." > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin > This does not distinguishit from water=reservoir > OSM defined as >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, Sorry to wake up so late I find the comment of Andrew about stream=* key very interesting. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:stream Has it been discussed already? I find it better than several keys All the best François 2018-07-18 9:50 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 18:10, François Lacombe wrote: Hi, Sorry to wake up so late I find the comment of Andrew about stream=* key very interesting. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:stream Has it been discussed already? I find it better than several keys I'd agree .. except then the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 18:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=reservoir OSM d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread François Lacombe
2018-07-18 10:19 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > On 18/07/18 18:10, François Lacombe wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry to wake up so late > I find the comment of Andrew about stream=* key very interesting. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:stream > > Has it been discussed al

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: > > > > That is not how the tag is used. water=reservoir is primarily used > > for dammed rivers. landuse=basin is mostly used for water areas > > created artificially where there was no pre-existing waterbody. If > > in your area these are mostly temporarily

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 18/07/18 18:10, François Lacombe wrote: Has it been discussed already? It was originally suggested by Tod Fitch: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-May/036678.html I suggested that persistence or permanence might be a more technically correct tag than presence: https

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Davidson
On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? Flow is not a good choice for a key as you can tag other hydrological features' permanence; such as lakes or wetlands, and these don't flow. __

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread eric
Hi Warin, I think landuse=basin is correct, because water=basin implies, for me at least, that there is normally water in it. While there are many basins that are normally dry. Here are several basins that are only filled during extreme rain events: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread François Lacombe
2018-07-18 12:30 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson : > On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: > >> What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? >> > > Flow is not a good choice for a key as you can tag other hydrological > features' permanence; such as lakes or wetlands, and these don

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 18:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=reservoir OSM d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 02:04, François Lacombe wrote: 2018-07-18 12:30 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson >: On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? Flow is not a good choice for a key as you can tag oth

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 10:17, Warin wrote: On 19/07/18 02:04, François Lacombe wrote: 2018-07-18 12:30 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson >: On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? Flow is not a good ch

[Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
Hi, With the golfing thing that I have on another thread there is the tagging of golf=clubhouse suggested on a building=yes. That is specific to golf, what about other clubhouses? Taginfo has uses of 557 building=clubhouse 479 golf=clubhouse 121 tennis:clubhouse=* 98 amenity=clubhouse 9

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 19 July 2018 at 13:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > With the golfing thing that I have on another thread there is the tagging > of golf=clubhouse suggested on a building=yes. That is specific to golf, > what about other clubhouses? > > > That is some 1,200 uses. Not vast by an

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread osm.tagging
Sounds like something that could be tagged *in addition* to building=clubhouse to provide more detail? From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:41 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse Not exactly clubhouse as such but d

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
for the complete "base" of the club, the club page [1] recommends "The base of the club can be tagged amenity=community_centre with the type community_centre=club_home and possibly the target group community_centre:for=*; either on the containing building or the same element as the club itself."

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 13:52, Marc Gemis wrote: for the complete "base" of the club, the club page [1] recommends "The base of the club can be tagged amenity=community_centre with the type community_centre=club_home and possibly the target group community_centre:for=*; either on the containing building or

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
I just wanted to point out that there are multiple levels that have to be mapped. - the golf course ( this does not include buildings, parkings, ...) - the buildings (some of which are clubhouses (can also be sheds, ...)) - the sport complex as a whole (the course + parking + buildings) (leisure=g

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread osm.tagging
Personally, for a golf club, I would consider the “club base” the area that the clubhouse and related infrastructure is on only, not including the actual holes. From: Marc Gemis Sent: Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:10 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] building

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 15:10, Marc Gemis wrote: I just wanted to point out that there are multiple levels that have to be mapped. - the golf course ( this does not include buildings, parkings, ...) - the buildings (some of which are clubhouses (can also be sheds, ...)) - the sport complex as a whole (the

[Tagging] Route maintenance tagging

2018-07-18 Thread Peter Elderson
I would like some thoughts on the idea of tagging route maintenance. Long hiking & cycling routes need regular maintenance. On the road, of course, which is not our problem, but as a consequence they need re-surveying and adapting the route relations to reality. I am looking for a systematic appro

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
18. Lipiec 2018 16:02 od e...@eric-poehlsen.de : > > The present OSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially > graded to hold water." > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin >