Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi all: I was the one who organized the import of 14,000+ places nodes in Liberia back in September 2014. The idea of giving place=unknown (together with a fixme=* tag) to places that were not possible to determine its value was proposed during the discussion in the imports list [1] [2]. p

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread OSMDoudou
> Like with any tag value, if data consumers don't undestand it they can just > ignore it. One of the data consumer is human. And humans are confused when something hold unexpected value. :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:/

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread OSMDoudou
I'd rather use fixme and note tags instead of encoding uncodified information in well-established tags. The wiki page [1] explains a bit the difference: "The fixme key allows contributors to mark objects and places that need further attention. These can be in the form of a "note to self" or req

Re: [Tagging] Not mapping personal preferences and details

2018-02-05 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
Hi all, did I miss the "consensus with the community, after long and detailed discussions" here ? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-October/033760.html There are two guys which appear to me like religios bigot on an Inquisition, but maybe the definitions in the wiki are just

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, Is 'unknown' really such an unusual and undesirable as an access tag? I thought it was long-established, if not especially common. If the issue is a lack of Wiki documentation that is easily solved. I think that highway=footway foot=unknown adds a useful level of nuance. For example a routing

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread OSMDoudou
You have a point… :-) The wiki already presents the idea that unknown means "unclear". [2] Taginfo tells access=unknown has 20 thousand occurrences (i.e. 0.30% and ranking at the 11th position), which makes it not so unusual. [3] The discussion here shows the value of "unknown" raises confusion

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/02/2018 16:46, OSMDoudou wrote: I'd rather use fixme and note tags instead of encoding uncodified information in well-established tags. I use fixmes a lot (I even wrote something to extract them from OSM for survey - https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 ).  Where I've used e.g. fo

Re: [Tagging] 'Unknown' value.

2018-02-05 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > I use fixmes a lot (I even wrote something to extract them from OSM for > survey - https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 ). Where I've used e.g. > foot=unknown it usually means "I've been there, I don't know what the access > rights are,

Re: [Tagging] Not mapping personal preferences and details

2018-02-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/05/2018 08:04 PM, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > There are two guys which appear to me like religios bigot on an Inquisition, > but maybe the definitions in the wiki are just unclear / too interpretable : They often are. Concerning your questions: 1. A "motorcycle_friendly" tag lacks the nec