Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread althio
Hi Leon, all, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface reads: - In surface=sett ; Note that surface=paving_stones is for flat, completely covering surface paving stones that may be made also out of stone. - In surface=paving_stones ; Paving stones describe a relatively smooth surface paved

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-15 8:54 GMT+01:00 OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com>: > It would be a pity to not do justice to the artwork element in this sort > of pavement. > > Not sure what to suggest however, but maybe something with > artwork_type=mosaic ? [1] > > [1] https://taginfo.openstre

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread OSMDoudou
Of course, what is art is left to everyone's guess and I'm trying to not enter this debate… :-) Maybe a way out is Wikipedia's suggestion that the term "craft" could be used instead of "art": " Often, if the skill is being used in a common or practical way, people will consider it a craft inste

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jan 2018, at 12:32, Matej Lieskovský > wrote: > > If you create a single empty relation with the details of the parking zone > rules, > you can then tag every road with the id of the relation. > It is basically a way of flipping the relation system around, proble

Re: [Tagging] Short-term parking zones

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jan 2018, at 16:01, Matej Lieskovský > wrote: > > Maybe a wikidata tag? wikidata is probably ok as a further external reference, but IMHO we shouldn’t use it as the only way to say what something is, or what its specifics are, if these are interesting for OSM as

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
El 15 ene. 2018 8:51, "Martin Koppenhoefer" escribió: 2018-01-15 8:54 GMT+01:00 OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96- 288ea1238...@gmx.com>: > generally a "painting". I'd rather subtype the surface value to something > specific like paving_stones=portugese_pavement > +1 Javier

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:50 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree that it seems interesting to add not only one of the established > generic surface tags, but to also give a hint that it is a kind of mosaic / > iconic depiction. Still, I would not call it "artwork" or > "artwork_type=mosaic" i

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for portuguese pavement

2018-01-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Fernando Trebien wrote: > Perhaps the pattern would ideally be represented by an open-set sub-tag Just realized that's the same thing Martin proposed, I misread the original message. -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "Nullius in verba." __

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-14 14:47 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić : > A map with lighthouses was produced [1] that gained popularity because it > was nicely rendered, but it showed how flawed OSM data was in this regard. > Very often little beacons [2] are mapped as man_made=lighthouse, which is > not right. > ... [2] - h

[Tagging] Sidewalks and cycleways as tags vs as extra lines and StreetComplete

2018-01-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello, When mapping sidewalks and cycleways, it is possible to do so as tags on the line of the motorised way [1][2] or as standalone lines parallel to it [1][3]. When StreetComplete [4] asks users whether there is a cycleway in a street, it fills the tags on the main way. The wiki also says that,

Re: [Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-13 0:14 GMT+01:00 Paul Allen : > A waterway, in English, and on OSM is a *navigable* body of inland water > such as a river or a canal. There's another meaning in English (but not > OSM) of waterway to mean a conduit to drain water. > actually, in OSM the waterway key is used for a lot

Re: [Tagging] access=yes|permissive allow all transport modes

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-15 0:05 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > They are the best tags if, as I said, only motor vehicles are allowed. > Of course, it depends on the exact intention, but with > > bicycle no > foot

Re: [Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-13 1:22 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > No. > > A tap cannot be easily drunk from ... you need a cup/hand to divert the water > to your mouth. > > A drinking fountain has a jet of water that can be intercepted by your mouth > - no cup required. > > A tap can easily be used to

[Tagging] Surface value for irregular, flat stones with variable gaps

2018-01-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello, In Brazil there are many streets that have a type of pavement which I'm beginning to think is rather unique. It is made of natural stones (granite, basalt, gneiss) cut irregularly but mostly flat on the top, arranged randomly with random gap spacing, usually 10x15x10cm. [2] The gaps are som

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for irregular, flat stones with variable gaps

2018-01-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-15 16:57 GMT+01:00 Fernando Trebien : > Hello, > > In Brazil there are many streets that have a type of pavement which > I'm beginning to think is rather unique. It is made of natural stones > (granite, basalt, gneiss) cut irregularly but mostly flat on the top, > arranged randomly with ra

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-15 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 15/01/2018 14:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: can you please explain how to distinguish a beacon from a light house? Historical beacons (for which the tag man_made=beacon is appropriate) are structures that were for generic signalling purposes, not necessarily maritime navigation. They can

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:58:49 + Malcolm Herring wrote: > A lighthouse (man_made=lighthouse) is a tower with living quarters > either within the tower, or a separate structure at or adjacent to > the base. Probably usually it is true but I would not consider it as absolutely necessary. _

[Tagging] Bad topology way level 2

2018-01-15 Thread OSMDoudou
Hello, Osmose reports an error with reason "Bad topology way level 2" [1] at this place [2] and I don't know how to resolve it. There are no buildings around that piece of highway (I'm talking about the small segment of road, not the residential or the primary highway around) and its sole p

Re: [Tagging] Surface value for irregular, flat stones with variable gaps

2018-01-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > interesting. I'd distinguish paving_stones, sett and cobblestones by the > smoothness (in descending order). This approach would be interesting to reduce the future need for the smoothness tag. To make differences more evident, I beli

Re: [Tagging] Bad topology way level 2

2018-01-15 Thread Steve Doerr
There is a philosophy in some parts that the roads of a particular class should form a continuous network with other roads of that class or higher, with no 'dead ends'. So primary roads should link to other primary roads or to trunks or motorways. In UK terms, highway=residential is equivalent

Re: [Tagging] Bad topology way level 2

2018-01-15 Thread OSMDoudou
Unclassified looks the better option, because this small road segment is admittedly not of the width and length you could expect from a primary_link. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Bad topology way level 2

2018-01-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:17:35 +0100 "OSMDoudou" <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Osmose reports an error with reason "Bad topology way level 2" [1] at > this place [2] and I don't know how to resolve it. You may want also report to Osmose developers that it reports errors wi

Re: [Tagging] AutoEdit rename roof:slope:direction to roof:direction

2018-01-15 Thread User Rebo
Hello, there are some news on this topic: 1) rename roof:slope:direction to roof:direction I contacted some people who used this tag, unfortunately only one answered till now. It seems there's no problem, as it is more a habit of old days. The precise values derive from own calculations, and n

Re: [Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-15 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 12-01-18 22:04, Cez jod wrote: Dear Cez, Every e-mail you have posted on this topic has started a new thread in my mail program (thunderbird). I now have literally 20 separate threads on Water Source types, 1 by the original poster (Daniel Koć), 19 by you. Could you fix your e-mail progra

Re: [Tagging] Water source types

2018-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16-Jan-18 02:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-01-13 1:22 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: No. A tap cannot be easily drunk from ... you need a cup/hand to divert the water to your mouth. A drinking fountain has a jet of water that c

Re: [Tagging] Difference between lighthouses and beacons

2018-01-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 16 January 2018 at 02:58, Malcolm Herring wrote: > > > A lighthouse (man_made=lighthouse) is a tower with living quarters either > within the tower, or a separate structure at or adjacent to the base. They > are topped with a lamp room. The lamp may or may not be functional - many > lighthouses

Re: [Tagging] tagging for decaying features

2018-01-15 Thread Warin
On 10-Jan-18 10:15 AM, Richard wrote: On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:37:26PM +1100, Warin wrote: On 07-Jan-18 09:59 AM, Richard wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 07:19:31AM +1100, Warin wrote: 2) I have not put in any examples - just placed the birthing, decay and repurpose categories on the main

Re: [Tagging] route role on cycle routes

2018-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 6:51 AM, Fernando Trebien < fernando.treb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Jo wrote: > >> > >> I fail to understand what information the route role is supposed to add. > > > > Identify "on/off