So far I just used "access=customers" and explained the permit required
in "description".
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> On 18. Sep 2017, at 14:17, joost schouppe wrote:
>
> In Gent, Belgium, they would also have liked to use access=permit. There are
> some new situations there where you need a local government permit to pass
> certain "breakpoints" within the city.
we also have these in
@warin wrote,
>NO. The formal process is"
...
...
>*OR*
>You can simply use the tag. There are some 235 uses from taginfo now, so
it has been used.
>As there are few of these tags around then it should be documented -
create a new wiki page.
>235 is not large but it does establish a use.
That's
2017-09-18 17:29 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny :
> I am told that access=permit is
> the same thing as access=private (which, as far as I can determine, is
> also no different from access=no). I accept that.
>
it depends what "permit" actually means:
1) can it be obtained by everybody meeting clearly d
@SwiftFast,
>So far I just used "access=customers" and explained the permit required
>in "description".
Based on what the Wiki says, I don't think your usage is quite correct:
This tag applies to objects which may be used or accessed only by
*customers* of a specific store, bank, restaurant, etc
Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to
everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the
country ?
Or even worse, to all streets with motor_vehicle=permit because you
need a driver license and a number plate for your car ?
This the proposal excluding th
>it depends what "permit" actually means:
I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The tag
means only that a permit is required to access the object.
Whether such an instrument is difficult to get, must be paid for, must be
adjudicated before some governing body, or whether
>Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to
>everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the
>country ?
>Or even worse, to all streets with motor_vehicle=permit because you
>need a driver license and a number plate for your car ?
>This the proposal exclud
I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the
most logical tag:
- access to a Low Emission Zone
- access to certain roads in cities (e.g. this road is accesible to certain
motor_vehicle if they ask for a permit:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25728312)
It would be
2017-09-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout :
> >it depends what "permit" actually means:
>
> I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The tag
> means only that a permit is required to access the object.
>
> Whether such an instrument is difficult to get, must be paid for, mus
2017-09-21 12:10 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe :
> I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the
> most logical tag:
>
> - access to a Low Emission Zone
>
IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you (or
better: your vehicle) must satisfy certai
On 2017-09-21 11:03, Marc Gemis wrote:
> Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to
> everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the
> country ?
Not everyone needs a visa of course, so it cannot be a simple attribute
of a country.
> Or even worse, to
On 2017-09-21 14:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2017-09-21 12:10 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe :
>
>> I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the
>> most logical tag:
>>
>> - access to a Low Emission Zone
>
> IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't nee
2017-09-21 14:40 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale :
> - access to a Low Emission Zone
>>
>
>
> IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you
> (or better: your vehicle) must satisfy certain conditions. Those are more
> similar to maxweight or maxheight IMHO ("maxemission").
>
>
> It
Folks, a permit is nothing more than a written form of permission. The OED
defines permit as "an official document giving permission to do something".
It doesn't imply anything other than that.
In my original post, I said I needed a way to tag a fishing pond located
within a military zone so that
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:25:16 +0200
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2017-09-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout :
>
> > >it depends what "permit" actually means:
> >
> > I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The
> > tag means only that a permit is required to access the obj
Thanks to everyone for continued patience with trying to refine the
definition.
I think we've most likely reached a point where "with all the horse
puckey about, there must be a pony in there somewhere!"
Let me try to take another run at the hill.
WHERE DOES ACCESS=PERMIT APPLY?
you do so much slalom to avoid the categories access=private and fee=yes
that I persist in believing that it would be easy to add tags to these 2
functions that already work to explain the conditions in which access is
possible. this would allow to tag in the same way a road leading to a
lake b
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:34 PM, marc marc
wrote:
> you do so much slalom to avoid the categories access=private and fee=yes
> that I persist in believing that it would be easy to add tags to these 2
> functions that already work to explain the conditions in which access is
> possible. this would
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