Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 4 Mar 2017, at 16:50, Thilo Haug wrote: > > Please check where this mail has been gone, reason : > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-March/031403.html maybe you haven't been subscribed with the email address from which it was sent by the time it w

[Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

2017-03-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Europe has numerous international cycle routes signposted and marketed as 'EuroVelo', and these are often mapped in OSM: http://www.eurovelo.com/ Unfortunately the tagging is pretty inconsistent, especially when routes are shared with national/regional (NCN/RCN) routes, as is usually t

Re: [Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

2017-03-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
As EV routes are not managed as single entities, every route is split in pieces managed on a country basis. I know the situation in Italy, as I am involved in regional and national cycle routes here. EV routes are handled by BicItalia which is part of FIAB, the "Italian Federation of Friends of the

Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings

2017-03-05 Thread Peter Barth
Hi Christian, "Christian Müller" schrieb: > I'm sure there is a lot of stuff in OSM where you could > trade code against a relation. But most of the time it > introduces dependencies: on caching [...] you're probably more than 10 years late with that and there had been many to suggest great new

Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings

2017-03-05 Thread Christian Müller
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. März 2017 um 20:22 Uhr > Von: "Peter Barth" > An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings > > > you're probably more than 10 years late with that and there had > been many to suggest great new database schemata, gr

Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings

2017-03-05 Thread Christian Müller
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. März 2017 um 20:22 Uhr > Von: "Peter Barth" > An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings > > Mappers even screw up simple multipolygons all the time. Addendum: It's not mappers to blame, but partial data, i.e. ob

Re: [Tagging] how to map simple buildings

2017-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5 Mar 2017, at 21:11, Christian Müller wrote: > > Strictly speaking, even a simple way is just that: > A relation of points. +1 it's the technical, abstract way in which relations are mostly presented to the mappers, that scares many of them, if this gets abstracted a

Re: [Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

2017-03-05 Thread Warin
I have a route that is mountain bike and hiking and horse the route=mtb;hiking;horse functions .. at least for hiking and horse ..(but not mtb on https://mtb.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=6!-35.8356!149.48 - change it to horse or hiking to see mapped sections of the BNT) the network tag .. I ha

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread David Bannon
Maybe its time someone put a note on the proposal page saying that the author is posting to the list but does not appear to be receiving messages from it ? In case its a language issue, could that message be in German and English perhaps ? David On 06/03/17 05:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi David, Am 05.03.2017 um 23:46 schrieb David Bannon: > Maybe its time someone put a note on the proposal page saying that the > author is posting to the list but does not appear to be receiving > messages from it ? > > In case its a language issue, could that message be in German and > English

Re: [Tagging] EuroVelo tagging

2017-03-05 Thread Jo
It ought to be possible to use hierarchy in those relations. That way you would map them at the national level and group them for the international level. Same for that route that is mtb/hiking/horse. 1 route containing the ways, then reuse for the other 2. At the moment I would tag that one with

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
There was an automatic reply, saying : "Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. [...] Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision." But that doesn't mean to me the whole mail was "invalid" or won't reach t

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
It is possible that the moderator has a backlog of messages, and hasn't reviewed it yet. On March 5, 2017 5:02:26 PM Thilo Haug wrote: There was an automatic reply, saying : "Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. [...] Either the message will get posted to the l

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
That's how it looks like, but the email should also inform about this possibility. There should be either a text that it's necessary to resend it when subscribed to the list or a possibility (link) to check whether it meanwhile arrived. Am 06.03.2017 um 00:08 schrieb John F. Eldredge: > > It is

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Thilo Haug
"Process problems are a pain in the ass. You never, ever want to have process problems ... That's when people start getting really angry at each other." Linus Torvalds Am 06.03.2017 um 00:08 schrieb John F. Eldredge: > > It is possible that the moderator has a backlog of messages, and > hasn't re

[Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I would like to start a discussion about the mapping of time zones. There are currently 80 relations in OSM tagged as boundary=timezone using between them over 10,000 ways. I think that mapping these time zones as geometries has several issues: 1. It introduces yet another un-observable

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - tag "motorcycle friendly" for accomodations

2017-03-05 Thread Warin
When I get that message (and I hope I have overcome the issue.. at least for now) it is because I sent the message from a non OSM registered email address. I simply go to the web address and cancel that email .. and then repost from the my correct OSM email address ... that should mean less work

Re: [Tagging] Mapping time zones as geometries (relations)

2017-03-05 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
I generally agree with your view. The wiki [1] already says: "An effective way to tag timezone information is to add it to administration boundaries of countries or in the case of larger countries smaller administrative boundaries such as states and territories. (Do not create stand-alone boun