Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread David Marchal
> From: chris_horm...@gmx.de > There are of course all kind of boundary cases but the typical bog as > common in many parts of northern Europe is rain fed. In German we have > the more specific term 'Regenmoor' which indicates this. Mires fed by > groundwater or water inflow from the outside a

Re: [Tagging] Jewelry/jewellery shops

2016-01-24 Thread malenki
Am Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:33:55 +0100 schrieb Stephan Knauss : > On 13.01.2016 23:46, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > We currently use British English for almost all OSM tags. Jewellery > > shops however are typically tagged with the American English variant > > shop=jewelry (20083 occurrences), and har

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-24 Thread Tijmen Stam
With the value "none" For example on German Autobahnen, where you can drive as fast as you want is "maxspeed=none" which is different from having maxspeed not set: this means maxspeed is unknown or not tagged yet. On 20-01-16 09:06, Colin Smale wrote: Exactly. If a missing value (i.e. use

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-24 Thread Colin Smale
At present the string "none" is actually a value, the interpretation of which is specific to the key "maxspeed" . Maybe we should promote it to the equivalent of NULL in SQL. On 24 January 2016 10:43:16 CET, Tijmen Stam wrote: >With the value "none" > >For example on German Autobahnen, where

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-24 Thread Gerd Petermann
I don't think so. Where do we need null values in OSM? As you said, maxspeed=none means something like maxspeed=unlimited. I can't think of any tag key which should be stored in OSM with a null value. In what case would that add valud information compared to having no such tag ? Gerd

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-24 Thread Colin Smale
We probably don't need a true technical null value, you are right. But if we introduce a formal method of defining defaults or implied values, for example if highway=residential implies maxspeed=30 "unless tagged otherwise", how can we tag "maxspeed is truly unknown, do not apply the defaults"? Sur

Re: [Tagging] Removing name_1 and alt_name_1 from Wiki

2016-01-24 Thread Tijmen Stam
Coming back to the lanes-example: The turn:lanes tag is there to show what direction a lane turns (or, akin to "map what's on the ground" principle: what arrows are drawn on the road). Say you have a junction in the motorway where three lanes continue and two lanes turn off. I have seen situa

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 23 January 2016 at 21:37, Christoph Hormann wrote: > the typical bog as > common in many parts of northern Europe is rain fed. That's not my understanding. For example I worked on the conservation of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moseley_Bog which is spring and stream fed. > Mires fed

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 24 January 2016, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > Mires fed by > > groundwater or water inflow from the outside are usually not bogs. > > See: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mire > > That's contradicted by: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog Well - I don't want to pass judgement he

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread Andy Townsend
What does "fen" means to you? I've a fairly good idea what I think it means, and I'd never or almost never tag it as a natural feature (though it may have a name, and the natural features within it may have names). I'm a native English speaker (though not native to a fenland area).. Could you

Re: [Tagging] wetland=bog, why only "receive their water and nutrients from rainfall"?

2016-01-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 24 January 2016, Andy Townsend wrote: > What does "fen" means to you? > > I've a fairly good idea what I think it means, and I'd never or > almost never tag it as a natural feature (though it may have a name, > and the natural features within it may have names). As a non-native English s

Re: [Tagging] Jewelry/jewellery shops

2016-01-24 Thread malenki
Am Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:32:56 +1100 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > I note the tag was > never 'approved'. > has had some discussion on the spelling aspect Just a side note: I'd assume that most of the major tags like highway=* never got proposed nor voted on. And seeing that maybe 30 to

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Remove name_1 and alt_name_1 from wiki)

2016-01-24 Thread Hakuch
The voting for the proposal "Remove suffixed name-tags from wiki" has started. Please involve with your vote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Remove_suffixed_name-tags_from_wiki find discussion threads here: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=53223 (german) htt

Re: [Tagging] Question reg. wheelchair mapping

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The width is important as well. I have been on footpaths that slanted downward across the face of a steep incline. The slope of the path was moderate, but the path was only about half a meter wide, with 45-degree slopes above and below the path. A person on foot could navigate the path (pref

Re: [Tagging] Tagging scrap yards, junkyards

2016-01-24 Thread John F. Eldredge
The only "waste transfer stations" I am aware of in my area are companies that empty garbage from huge "dumpster" garbage bins at apartment complexes and businesses, then ship the garbage to landfills. Unlike a scrapyard, there is no long-term storage involved. On 01/20/2016 11:31 AM, Andy To