Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 07.01.2016 um 17:14 schrieb Aaron Spaulding : > > Either of these models can be used. I think option 1 makes the most sense, > but I’d like to know what the community consensus is. I've always thought of ele representing the lower part, which is clear for man made fea

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 07 January 2016, Aaron Spaulding wrote: > Hi all, > > I’ve been working on generating 3D meshes based on OSM data and I ran > into a problem. Vertical features like 'natural=cliff', > 'barrier=retaining_wall’ and 'waterway=waterfall' occupy two points > in physical space, but because of

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Warin
On 8/01/2016 3:32 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2016, Aaron Spaulding wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working on generating 3D meshes based on OSM data and I ran into a problem. Vertical features like 'natural=cliff', 'barrier=retaining_wall’ and 'waterway=waterfall' occupy two p

[Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-07 Thread Mike Thompson
I am editing in Colorado, US in a rural part of the state. I do have first hand knowledge of the area. It looks like someone has gone through and changed many ways tagged "highway = residential" to "highway = track." For example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/6152252#map=16/40.7825/-105.1985

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-07 Thread Tod Fitch
My parents house is in a pretty rural part of Arizona and distinguishing between tracks and driveways or even residential roads can be difficult there. So my initial instinct was to say leave the ways in that part of Colorado as tracks as it can be hard to tell on the imagery. But looking at th

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Colin Smale
Cliffs are never truly vertical. A bird's eye view from above will show that. If they are steep enough they could be modelled as a line, but in general we should allow for a polygon, with a high side and a low side. On 7 January 2016 17:32:49 CET, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > >sent from a p

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Colin Smale
Nobody will be using the raw data to fly a plane. It doesn't matter if we use the ele tag for the top or the bottom - as long as the height is given, the other value can easily be derived. What is important is consistency, both in its definition and it's usage. Defining it as sometimes the top a

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Mike Thompson
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > Cliffs are never truly vertical. A bird's eye view from above will show > that. If they are steep enough they could be modelled as a line, but in > general we should allow for a polygon, with a high side and a low side. > Actually, sometimes th

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Colin Smale
Indeed. On 7 January 2016 23:57:40 CET, Mike Thompson wrote: >On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Colin Smale >wrote: > >> Cliffs are never truly vertical. A bird's eye view from above will >show >> that. If they are steep enough they could be modelled as a line, but >in >> general we should allow f

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:15:00 -0700 Mike Thompson wrote: > I am editing in Colorado, US in a rural part of the state. I do have > first hand knowledge of the area. It looks like someone has gone > through and changed many ways tagged "highway = residential" to > "highway = track." For example: >

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-07 Thread Dave Swarthout
This is something we go round and round with in Thailand as well. Highway=track is usually but not always a smaller, narrower way, either paved or unpaved, that is used for agricultural or other purposes. It is not a connector link between towns nor does it normally have residences alongside of it.

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Warin
On 8/01/2016 9:56 AM, Colin Smale wrote: Nobody will be using the raw data to fly a plane. It doesn't matter if we use the ele tag for the top or the bottom - as long as the height is given, the other value can easily be derived. What is important is consistency, both in its definition and it's

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

2016-01-07 Thread Mike Thompson
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Grasping at straws .. the elevation of a mountain is given as its peak. If > there is consistency within the map then the elevation of all objects > should be their maximum height. > Sort of. By convention (in general mappin

Re: [Tagging] highway = track vs. residential

2016-01-07 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Jan 8, 2016, at 8:43 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > hat is used for agricultural or other purposes Question on that: https://goo.gl/maps/Nvbmz1Z4bJp We have a lot of public roads in Japan that, on import, were set to "unclassified". In rural areas - many are wrong. But as the r