Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-11-02 Thread Gerd Petermann
good points, I should have written traffic_information=* instead of information=* I also like the idea to separate advisory traffic signs from others, presuming that the laws are clear about this. We have several different tags like highway=distance_sign, highway=rock_slide, highway=motorway

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I propose to use some "area:highway" value for these diagonally hatched parts of the asphalt, e.g. keep_off cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-01 23:00 GMT+01:00 Andrew MacKinnon : > I have being using guidepost=vms isn't a guidepost a sign that indicates directions for specific destinations, eventually with distance indications? The matrix signs I had in mind show information like "travel time to XY 20 minutes" (there's some

Re: [Tagging] Often seen tagging problems regarding junctions

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Mann
It's been the advice for a long time to use a node. Some data users will expect a node. I use both a way and a node, because I can make good use of the way. Looks like someone has set up a preset that does the way and not the node. That's not ideal, because some data users will expect the node to

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Dave Swarthout
There are risky pedestrian controlled signals here too. The way they work is that if and only if there is a pedestrian waiting to cross, you slow down or stop your vehicle to let him or her cross the street. Then, without waiting for the green light to appear or the audio tones to end, you immediat

Re: [Tagging] Often seen tagging problems regarding junctions

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 8:15 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann : > okay, what do you use when there are traffic lights at a zebra crossing? > Or let's say what would you recommend? > I use the traffic lights value. It is very common here (if not all crossings are like that) to have zebra markings at traffic light con

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread GerdP
Dave Swarthout wrote > As for the painted "islands", I have always ignored those completely > because IMO it would serve no useful purpose to map them. Maybe I'm wrong. +1 As I wrote before in other threads, I try to clean up the highway tags, so my primary goal is to change those ways which are

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 10:36 GMT+01:00 GerdP : > +1 > > As I wrote before in other threads, I try to clean up the highway tags, > so my primary goal is to change those ways which are tagged > highway=*, so I'd be happy to find a good replacement instead of > removing them all. > these are clearly areas, so

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 10:26 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > In the U.S., as in Germany I gather from Gerd's comment, you would be > ticketed and fined heavily for that sort of behavior. it depends. One of the very few things western Germany took from the eastern German inventions after the reunification was

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "overhead electronic display" ?

2015-11-02 Thread johnw
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > "travel time to XY 20 minutes" On Japan’s tollways, this is often done with a single-purpose sign with a variable number, and different color of the numbers to indicate delay time. As Japan’s tollway system is really built up,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread johnw
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > a sign that let's you pass the red light if you turn right and there are no > pedestrians (and not crossing traffic). In America, turning right on a red signal is usually allowed (unless you spot a rare “no turn on red sign”), an

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon Nov 2 07:35:03 2015 GMT, Gerd Petermann wrote: > off topic: > Yes, I also learned that in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. > Zebra crossing seem to have no meaning, red lights > at pedestrian crossings are ignored as long as it possible > to cross before or after the pedestrian. Sounds dangerous, >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

2015-11-02 Thread Dave F.
I'm not convinced that the perfect tag for this place is helipad. If there is no H-painting and (like I understand you), no lights or any other signs, I'd not use the helipad tag. Are there vertical signs for people (s.th. like: careful while helicopters land / no access or similar) near the sp

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

2015-11-02 Thread Dave F.
On 01/11/2015 20:50, Daniel Koć wrote: I was just wonder if we could turn the aeroway=helipad wih "heliport" in name into aeroway=heliport (not all of them, because helipad is different beast, as you just wrote), but after more research I am now more cautious: looks like many "heliports" are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 15:17 GMT+01:00 Dave F. : > Just because it has no H marking or other signage doesn't mean helicopters > don't land there. As it's clearly used as a landing space by helicopters > what do your suggest as an alternative? > helicopters, by principle, can land on an awful lot of places,

[Tagging] traffic_sign:forward=*

2015-11-02 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi all, it seems that the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign is too confusing. The overpass query node[ "traffic_sign"="maxspeed"]["source:maxspeed"="sign"]; shows 831 nodes. My understanding is that one tag is for the node, the other for the way. Also funny: http://tag

Re: [Tagging] "What can I ask ..." list for browsing people

2015-11-02 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-01 23:25, Simon Poole wrote : > > You click on "Help" then on "Beginners Guide" > This *Beginners' Guide* will show you how to add data to OpenStreetMap. > You need a computer connected to the Internet and some time to gather > information and then enter it. A GPS unit and connecting ca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2015-11-02 Thread Joan
The tag has already been used a few times (there was four tags in different places of the world) see it here https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=power_utility#overview, Its counterpart, the water_utility has 35 ocurrences in the map https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=water_util

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread Dave Swarthout
Here's a little story, completely off topic, that might amuse you. Back in the 70s when the U.S. DOT decided to make right turns on red legal, the Massachusetts DOT decided they didn't like it and refused to go along. The federal government said, fine, you don't have to agree but you won't get any

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2015-11-02 Thread johnw
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Joan wrote: > > The tag has already been used a few times (there was four tags in different > places of the world) see it here > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/office=power_utility#overview >

Re: [Tagging] How to tag traffic islands ?

2015-11-02 Thread johnw
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I was living in Boston at the time and can attest to the fact that there > were only a very few places where you could go right on red. From what I have heard of boston, the narrow streets with limited visibility seem very similar to J

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - aeroway=heliport

2015-11-02 Thread Warin
On 3/11/2015 1:43 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 01/11/2015 20:50, Daniel Koć wrote: I was just wonder if we could turn the aeroway=helipad wih "heliport" in name into aeroway=heliport (not all of them, because helipad is different beast, as you just wrote), but after more research I am now more caut

[Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

2015-11-02 Thread johnw
I assume there are many around the world, But I am trying to tag a group of flower fields that are used year round to create a decoration by growing vast fields of a single type of flower. They are not harvested or sold, they are there merely for the visitors of a very large 3sq KM mixed-use pa

Re: [Tagging] "What can I ask ..." list for browsing people

2015-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM, André Pirard wrote: > What can I show to Mr X? > > This is extremely off topic btw. > > *you* are perfectly off topic. > You seem to confuse the mappers and the public. > And, btw the correct, fully meaningful quote is > > What Simon probably means is that this top

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

2015-11-02 Thread Dave Swarthout
Thailand has sunflower fields - actually a Japanese variety if I recall correctly. https://www.google.com/search?q=sunflowers+mae+hong+son On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:36 AM, johnw wrote: > I assume there are many around the world, But I am trying to tag a group > of flower fields that are used yea

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

2015-11-02 Thread Dave Swarthout
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:42 AM, johnw wrote: > I wanted a landuse=civic (or similar) to go with building=civic - and have > a civic=* subkey to define all the various governmental and civic offices. > (townhalls, community centeres, tax offices, water district offices, etc. I want that too. It

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

2015-11-02 Thread Marc Gemis
John, I would use leisure=garden, but I assume I must be missing something as you didn't pick this (obvious) tag. Can you explain why you don't want to use/think abotu/like this tag ? The wiki page [1] starts with "A garden is a distinguishable planned space, usually outdoors, set aside for the d

Re: [Tagging] Decorative flower fields? (not as a crop?)

2015-11-02 Thread Gerd Petermann
My understanding was that John wants to point out that this part of the nature is very beautiful at a certain time and without the "help" of humans. A garden seems to imply that it is man_made. Gerd Von: Marc Gemis Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. November 2015 08:03