[Tagging] Rendering surface values

Default map style has significant power in shaping how map is tagged. Therefore I want to keep good tagging, documentation on Wiki and my proposed rendering of surface tags in Default Map Style synchronized. On https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/110#issuecomment-102763588 I

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

This is no way to treat consumers of map data. If you make major changes like this, anyone using the map has to scramble to change their rendering code. If there's no semblance of upward compatibility, people will lose interest in OSM because it is just too hard to maintain, and if there is any kin

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

I agree with this, but I think consumers should be abstrated from our tags too. It shouldn't be impossible to change the meaning of a tag. But untill such abstraction is made, no major changes should be made. Janko ned, 17. svi 2015. 15:14 David Earl je napisao: It shouldn't matter what the tag

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

Just exactly how can a data consumer be “abstracted from our tags”? Where in a typical rendering process could this abstraction be placed where it would be automatic and transparent to the people maintaining the data consumers? For example, I generate PDF/paper trail maps for an organization usi

[Tagging] Group of islands?

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Re: [Tagging] Group of islands?

Archipelago? Phil (trigpoint) On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 16:23 +0200, Richard Z. wrote: > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mai

Re: [Tagging] Group of islands?

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 04:15:02PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > Archipelago? the text says << Groups of islands: add the natural=coastline into a multipolygon. >> why would I do that? Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:/

[Tagging] Estate agent

Hi all, it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. My suggestion is to set status of shop=estate_agent as 'abandoned' and office=estate_agent as 'de fa

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

On 17/05/2015 16:52, Paweł Marynowski wrote: Hi all, it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. Surely both are potentially valid? Some estate

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

> On May 17, 2015, at 9:01 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: > > On 17/05/2015 16:52, Paweł Marynowski wrote: >> Hi all, >> it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent >> - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that >> office=estate_agent is much

Re: [Tagging] Group of islands?

There was a proposal of the tag cluster recently, and a mailing list thread: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020959.html ned, 17. svi 2015. 17:24 Richard Z. je napisao: > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 04:15:02PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Archipelago? > > the text

Re: [Tagging] Group of islands?

natural=archipelago > Am 17.05.2015 um 18:33 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > > There was a proposal of the tag cluster recently, and a mailing list thread: > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020959.html ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

> Am 17.05.2015 um 17:52 schrieb Paweł Marynowski : > > it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent > - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that > office=estate_agent is much more popular. you seem to assume that these are about

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

OK, but in this case exactly the same name tag isn't confusing? If we consider two different tags valid, it should be "estate agent" and "estate agency" or "estate broker". Or at least clear definition on wiki. 2015-05-17 19:26 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > > Am 17.05.2015 um 17:52 schrie

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

W dniu 16.05.2015 9:55, Janko Mihelić napisał(a): It maybe controversial, but I think we don't want "everyone" editing the map. I think we need some barriers to filter out people who are "good" mappers. Good mappers have to understand this is not a service for them, but a community. They have to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

W dniu 16.05.2015 19:42, Richard Welty napisał(a): on the other hand, demanding that the rendering on www.openstreetmap.org [1] be all things to all people is actually pretty unreasonable. the current architecture which separates data from style is well considered and in line with modern bes

Re: [Tagging] amenity vs. shop *=ice_cream

2015-05-14 19:41 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > > Am 14.05.2015 um 18:44 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : > > > > Expecting any > > difference in how these tags are used is naive. > > > I agree, mostly, there is a difference in amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream, > you can be sure there will be table

Re: [Tagging] Removal of "amenity" from OSM tagging

On 17 May 2015 at 14:12, David Earl wrote: > This is no way to treat consumers of map data. If you make major changes > like this, anyone using the map has to scramble to change their rendering > code. If there's no semblance of upward compatibility, people will lose > interest in OSM because it

Re: [Tagging] amenity vs. shop *=ice_cream

On 17 May 2015 at 22:15, Paweł Marynowski wrote: > > To clarify, I suggest to change image on > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dice_cream to this one: > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ice-cream_shop_-_Florida.jpg. > Current image looks more like amenity=cafe (you can see

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

The one near me is deffo a shop - sells coffee and sandwiches! -- Mike. @millomweb - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

On Sun, 2015-05-17 at 23:01 +0200, Daniel Koć wrote: > Once we start seeing through the eyes of people using the > map, who can help expand and refine our data, we can understand what are > their background, what are the problems for them and how they may behave > when experiencing obstacle

Re: [Tagging] Estate agent

On 5/17/2015 1:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: it looks like since 2010 there is no consensus about how to tag estate agent - shop vs. office. Quick look at taginfo gives clear information, that office=estate_agent is much more popular. you seem to assume that these are about the same thing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging FOR the renderer

On 18/05/2015 6:04 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 16.05.2015 9:55, Janko Mihelić napisał(a): It maybe controversial, but I think we don't want "everyone" editing the map. I think we need some barriers to filter out people who are "good" mappers. Good mappers have to understand this is not a servic

Re: [Tagging] amenity vs. shop *=ice_cream

> Am 18.05.2015 um 02:04 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > > This is better, imo: > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ice-cream_van_(4022093988).jpg - no > hot food from this one so deffo not shop not fast food. typically those would move around, so not mappable and would make a bad examp