Not sure what problem this is trying to solve. US CB usage doesn't do
offsets for transmit and receive typically (some radios can do it but it's
not within the US spec), and local company specific usage is typically
well-signposted in an obvious location as necessary, with the de facto
running cha
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:53 PM, moltonel 3x Combo
wrote:
> On 09/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>
> > I know it's a messy dividing line. I see it as important context to
> > current day mapping.
>
> That's a fair point, but I've seen it pushed beyond reason too many
> times.
>
I've also see
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> 2015-03-09 23:06 GMT+01:00 John F. Eldredge :
>
>>
>> How does it "help mappers see what they have mapped" to not show a large
>> structure which has been mapped and which is physically present?
>>
>
> I didn't say the bridge shouldn't be ren
2015-03-09 22:33 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett :
> It would be adavtagus to tag which side or sides have viewing screens
> (in other words, which way the hide faces).
>
> ...
>
> There are pictures at:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_hide
>
> and:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Catego
2015-03-09 20:41 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt :
> What *use* can a map *reader* make of event hall data?
> Personally I would find the existence of a event rental space interesting,
> but always defer to the official website for any sense of
> capacity/size/hours.
yes, for precise information, but "
2015-03-08 23:08 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> The way I search for a relevant tag is to use the wiki, not taginfo. I
> suspect many mappers do the same.
I recommend using several sources, my personal priority order is: the wiki,
taginfo, mailing lists.
> Using a tag that is not
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:50:36AM +1100, Warin wrote:
> On 10/03/2015 1:22 AM, ael wrote:
> >I have resorted to changing railway=abandoned to railway=disused
> >on several occasions just to get mapnik and friends to render
> >bridges. Bridges over roads and rivers are major features of relevance
>
On 09/03/2015 15:06, ael wrote:
Well, I have only changed the tag on the bridges themselves, and only on
ways for which I did the original (and usually any subsequent) survey
and edits. So I am not corrupting other people's data.
You're are corrupting *the* data. which is *everybody's* data.
> On Mar 9, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
>
> 2015-03-09 6:55 GMT+01:00 johnw :
>> current draft definition:
>>
>> A new landuse=* value for civil government buildings & complexes where
>> citizens or services for citizens are managed. This includes legislative and
>> ex
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> The core problem is:
> railway=abandoned
> Refers to railway service, and does not describe what's on the ground.
> What's on the ground could range from a bit of residual lead arsenate
> herbicide,
> up through a highly visible gravel trackbe
On 10/03/2015 14:37, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
OSM apparently only cares about railways.
No, no, no! OSM cares _passionately_ about semicolons:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/thread.html#21258
Cheers,
Andy
:)
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On 10/03/2015, ael wrote:
> In passing, I am a little bemused that so many people seem to have missed
> the hint that I normally regard tagging for the renderer as evil by
> using the word "Blatant" in the title of this thread and that it was
> sort of a confession and plea for help on how to avoi
2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis :
> Is the problem that "admin" is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging
> legislative buildings with "admin"?
>
yes, that's a point I don't like. If its admin, it is not legislation.
>
> Do you have a suggestion for a better civic_? "Government"seem
On 10/03/2015, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:53 PM, moltonel 3x Combo
> wrote:
> I've also seen the opposite mapping issue, where an abandoned railway was
> deleted from the map,
> when in fact large chunks still exist.
If an osm way represents a railway that is 50% gone, is it
Trying to build consensus after at least three failed efforts in past years,
I submit for voting:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station
Please read through the discussion and old proposals if you have questions:
this has been well discussed over the years.
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> 2015-03-08 23:08 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>
>> The way I search for a relevant tag is to use the wiki, not taginfo. I
>> suspect many mappers do the same.
>
> Using a tag that is not on the wiki will probably mean it is not rendered.
>>
>
Many mappers don't use the wiki at all.
Th
In Canada, privately licensed frequencies, not CB are used that have to be
programmed into the scanner. There may or may not be repeaters, but since
you only need to communicate with the traffic nearby it doesn't matter
(there's no point in know that there is a truck moving 20km up the road.
The sy
Hi Andreas,
Thanks for your reaction.
Yes it was, but the definition changed in the mean time. It was originally
proposed as "Feature Proposal - RFC - parking=storage: additional values
for key parking".
An extensive discussion took place about shop or amenity. My conclusion is
that shop is the
Jan,
I think it would help if you renamed the page title in the wiki, and edited
the text of the proposal for clarity.
Then resubmit to vote.
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If you think of "shop=" as "business=", a storage business makes perfect
sense. Goods stored include
household goods, vehicles, or bulk goods. The pr
Hi Bryce,
How can I rename the wiki? Do I need to create a new one and copy/paste the
contents?
Regards,
Jan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:32 PM Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> Jan,
>
> I think it would help if you renamed the page title in the wiki, and
> edited the text of the proposal for clarity.
> Th
I'm seeking comments on adding "palm" to the leaf types
at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leaf_type
A rendering engine can equate palm and "broadleaved". Mappers are mapping
palms
very frequently, and having this key name I think would reduce confusion.
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On 10 March 2015 at 21:40, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
> Hi Bryce,
>
> How can I rename the wiki? Do I need to create a new one and copy/paste the
> contents?
Look on the line:
Read | Edit | View history | [Star, Watch] | Dropdown arrow
Click the Dropdown arrow and Move.
_
There a "move page" link that leads to Special:MovePage, for renaming pages.
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On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 11:38 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>..
> > Using a tag that is not on the wiki will probably mean it is not
> > rendered.
> rendered where? Many if not even most of the tags that are described
> in the wiki are actually not rendered on the OSM-Carto style.
>
While tru
On Tue, 2015-03-10 at 09:35 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>The wiki has a very low correlation to the rendering.
Does it ? Are you suggesting that there is substantial usage of tags
that don't appear on the wiki ? If so, I'd suggest we need to fix the
wiki.
> Rendering is not the only goal of OS
“palm” is described explicitly as an example at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leaf_type%3Dbroadleaved
So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
I have doubts in adding a new value which is just a special case of an
existing value – in the same key. We loose
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
>
The difficulty is that palms are widely mapped now, and changing type=palm
to leaf_type=broadleaved
feels like removing information. Yet that's what the wiki recommen
+1
leaf_type=palm would loose no data, and still be recognizable as a
broadleaved leaf type.
It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
My 2 cents
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Bryce Nesb
I've been following this discussion, sort of, and think much of the
confusion could be eliminated if you just fall back to landuse=civic, as
suggested. That way we needn't worry about what sort of government branch,
be it executive or judicial, the occupants belong to. Civic is fairly
general, yes,
>
> It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
> usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
>
+1
Palms are their own group of trees distinct from broad-leaved trees or
conifers and it makes sense to tag with a different value.
Mike
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> On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>
>
> 2015-03-10 13:57 GMT+01:00 John Willis mailto:jo...@mac.com>>:
> Is the problem that "admin" is in the title? That I'm proposing tagging
> legislative buildings with "admin"?
>
>
> yes, that's a point I don't like. If its ad
There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and confusing
them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way the species
(or class or whatever) of tree is defined? it thought there was some species
tag for this as well - or is it too difficult when mapping to
> On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:49 AM, Matthijs Melissen
> wrote:
>
> On 9 March 2015 at 15:26, SomeoneElse wrote:
>> To be fair, someone did submit a pull request to resolve exactly this issue
>> and it was summarily closed:
>>
>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/641
>
>
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:11 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe)
wrote:
> Le mardi 10 mars 2015 22:14:45, Bryce Nesbitt a écrit :
> It isn't really clear to me what you mean by that, but I don't like mixing
> different changeset types of mechanical edits. It makes it harder to
> understand what was the int
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:01 PM, johnw wrote:
>
> There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and
> confusing them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way
> the species (or class or whatever) of tree is defined? I thought there was
> some species tag fo
Hi, I hope this helps (and that I’m remembering correctly my education from
forestry school in the states),
In taxonomy of trees there are two kinds of families - gymnosperms and
angiosperms, commonly called deciduous and coniferous but actually
scientifically separated by their reproductive di
To avoid confusion the wiki page has been renamed to reflect the change of
the proposal itself that was made before the proposal was submitted for
voting. It now can be found here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Dstorage#Tagging.
Furthermore I elaborated the reasoning f
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