Re: [Tagging] Adding values to usage=* key for power transmission

2014-12-16 23:42 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : >> I think there is a big difference between "operator" and "usage": the latter >> is most probably intended to be a formal tag with a limited, well defined >> set of values, while the former is a free text field with any value possible. >> Mixing up "

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Hi Dmitry I did a quick sruvey of some fast food restuarants the local Ikea, I know they all have "leisure=playground" outside and inside, non of these were mapped. So why haven't we mapped them as leisure=playground? On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: > > Hi > > We have >

Re: [Tagging] city walls (was: Watermill attributes)

On Tue Dec 16 2014 17:42:47 GMT+ (GMT), Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-12-16 18:16 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > > > > "interesting to map dismantled city gates as historic=city_gate" > > > > It is OK to map ruins/remmants, archeological site - but note that > > completely destroyed object

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Probably we should define kids_area as: leisure=playground playground:indoor=yes playground:supervised=yes - "supervised by parents, not by somebody else" 2014-12-17 12:49 GMT+04:00 Erik Johansson : > > Hi Dmitry > > I did a quick sruvey of some fast food restuarants the local Ikea, I know > they

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

I meant playground:supervised=no in last message > So why haven't we mapped them as leisure=playground? Playground equipement is very different for "outside" playgrounds and "indoor" facilities. Your kids will never watch tv at regular leisure=playground, while amenity=kids_area may have not only

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

On Wed Dec 17 2014 09:32:05 GMT+ (GMT), Никита wrote: > Probably we should define kids_area as: > leisure=playground > playground:indoor=yes > playground:supervised=yes - "supervised by parents, not by somebody else" > And access tags, such as access=customers. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent f

Re: [Tagging] city walls (was: Watermill attributes)

2014-12-17 10:24 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes : > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whip-Ma-Whop-Ma-Gate > Never been to York to date, but I already love it! Thanks for that ;-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] city walls (was: Watermill attributes)

You should visit, it is a lovely city and has a complete city wall that is lovely to walk around. Also nice pubs, a massive cathedral and the national railway museum. Phil (trigpoint ) On Wed Dec 17 2014 09:47:16 GMT+ (GMT), Martin Vonwald wrote: > 2014-12-17 10:24 GMT+01:00 Philip Barn

Re: [Tagging] city walls

So far I have never come across "razed". What's the difference between "razed" and "dismantled", if any? On 17 December 2014 at 07:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Razed would be much better for this kind of object (though I am not a big > fan fan of razed, sooner or later completely mundane thin

Re: [Tagging] city walls

2014-12-17 11:52 GMT+01:00 Volker Schmidt : > > So far I have never come across "razed". What's the difference between > "razed" and "dismantled", if any? there are lots of discussions on this topic and lots of different proposals and wiki pages. You can find some documentation here, but AFAIK

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Then I like kids_area when you are mapping a private playground that is closed off without direct public access, mainly because I wouldn't map them as a leisure=playground. About supervision vs. childcare, we have lots of free supervised playgrounds here which do not offer child care, and and I ha

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Erik, this gets really messy here. Not mapping a playground as a playground just because of the access? We don't map amenity=parking differently just because of access=customers. We have all the tools already without the need for a new tag, and definitely these shopping centre playgrounds should

Re: [Tagging] man_made=adit_entrance

2014-12-17 1:29 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > > I tag an adit as a node, the opening through which you enter the > underground part of a cave or mine. +1, I take that back, was confusing it with "access" which could be either a spot or a linear feature, while "entrance" is supposedly a spot (sai

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Am 17.12.2014 um 15:11 schrieb Tom Pfeifer: > Erik, this gets really messy here. Not mapping a playground as a playground > just because of the access? We don't map amenity=parking differently > just because of access=customers. > > We have all the tools already without the need for a new tag, and

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

2014-12-17 15:26 GMT+01:00 fly : > > +1 > > > leisure=playground > > playground:indoor=yes or playground:outdoor=yes > > playground:supervised=yes or no (referring to staff supervision) > > access=customers > > > > indoor=yes and supervised=yes/no work. > > No need for the subtag construction. > >

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

This is about a new attribute for administrative devisions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/admin_title -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

> > About supervision vs. childcare, we have lots of free supervised > playgrounds here which do not offer child care, and and I have no > experience with staffed child care facilties at malls etc. But for me > amenity=kindergarten seems to be an good match to child_care you would > have in a mall.

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

> Yes we can, see playground=* as approved, e.g. playground=swing Most likely because you have no idea what objects will be mapped with new tag kids_area=*. Well please show, show me these tags then: playground=pcroom playground=tv playground=activitytable playground=activitytable playground=globe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

Sorry, the German examples don't mean much to me. Do the examples below show what you're proposing? name=Chicago, admin_title=city, admin_level... name=California, admin_title=state, admin_level On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > This is about a new attribute for

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

> but some people at least are starting to use amenity=childcare. Please don't link to tags without proposals they are meaningless without actual data/definition. No reason to discuss them here. kids_area=* is clearly defined as more advanced leisure=playground in the proposal. I will use this ta

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

2014-12-17 16:25 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann : > > This is about a new attribute for administrative devisions. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/admin_title > isn't this already covered by name and its variants? e.g. name="Bezirk Zwettl" short_name="Zwettl" or name="Zwett

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > This is about a new attribute for administrative devisions. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/admin_title Maybe use official_status for that? We in Russia use it extensively for official place titles (if I understood your proposal correctly): http:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

On 17.12.2014 16:47, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > Sorry, the German examples don't mean much to me. Do the examples below show > what you're proposing? > > name=Chicago, admin_title=city, admin_level... > name=California, admin_title=state, admin_level Exactly. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann htt

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

On 17.12.2014 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > isn't this already covered by name and its variants? > e.g. > name="Bezirk Zwettl" > short_name="Zwettl" > > or > name="Zwettl" > official_name="Bezirk Zwettl" ? No, because the official name is just "Zwettl". But in most cases when you talk about

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

So what do you do with Berlin? State? City? "Stadtstaat" (Citystate)? __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/taggin

Re: [Tagging] Wiki - contact: & Map Features

actually the "idea" to prefix phone etc. with "contact:" was never more popular than the simple form. The "contact:"-form was proposed later and never set actually foot compared to the simple version. I have also tried in the past to convince mappers by sending them messages, to not use the prefix

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

Why should we map something, with different kind of activity and different name (at least in russian, serbian and many other cyrillic languages) as a playground? For example hr (sr the same but with cyryllic alphabet): playground https://translate.google.com/#hr/en/igrali%C5%A1te play room http

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

I don't see a need for a new key here. The properties can be easily modelled with sub-tagging of playground: leisure=playground playground:supervised=yes/no playground:outdoor=yes/no playground:indoor=yes/no I agree in general, but the main issue with tagging like this is that I bet most data

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

In the UK "designation=" is in wide usage for this. I don't know if it is typically a UK thing (it wouldn't surprise me) but local governments sometimes have the right to change their "style" - for example a "civil parish" can choose autonomously to call itself a "community council". It can also

Re: [Tagging] Dispute with user over changing wiki page

Hi, On 11/08/2014 04:47 PM, Pee Wee wrote: > We are writing to you for advice on what steps we should or could take > next. The situation is best summarized as: [...] After some consideration I have today asked user ulamm to refrain from making any edits to wiki pages unless he has first propose

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=public_bookcase

Hello, I would like to propose a feature for public bookcases, also known as Little Free Libraries in the US, and widely popular in Germany: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/public_bookcase Here is the t

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

usually, the purpose of visiting a playground is to, um, visit the playground. The purpose of a play area is (AFIK) a place to deposit the kids while (one of) the adults do something else, or as a amenity to a more serious or boring place place where the kids can have their attention taken away