Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-14 10:57 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > I personnaly find some interest in man_made=technical_cabinet instead of > man_made=street_cabinet > The "street" term is certainly restrictive when such cabinet can be found > far from streets. > > man_made=street_cabinet should be documented as exp

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, Thank you Martin It has been documented as voted yesterday http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Street_cabinet A disambiguation chapter has been added to help anyone who want to deal with traffic signals or accepted monitoring stations http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Street_cabinet#Disa

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread johnw
How would I go about documenting the garbage/refuse cabinets? Just get a picture and put it into the wiki, or is there some other way? because it is a brand new proposal, I’m unsure of the procedure to extend it. Javbw > > It has been documented as voted yesterday > http://wiki.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
A large amount of values can be added to street_cabinet key. I think you should only open a thread on Talk page to let other contributors discuss about it and relay the discussion here on @tagging http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet No need to complex proposal pr

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
adding to Talk page On naming of newly voted man_made=street_cabinet http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet A few old & new proposals for actual naming are: man_made=street_cabinet man_made=technical_cabinet man_made=outdoor_cabinet man_made=cabinet man_made=street

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-17 12:10 GMT+01:00 althio forum : FWIW, the term "man_made=street_cabinet" has just been approved by almost unanimous voting. Why does this discussion start now? man_made=street_cabinet > is implicitly rejecting 'countryside cabinet' or cabinets in > motorways, parks, fields, train sta

Re: [Tagging] pipeline flow direction; was: Feature Proposal - RFC - Pipeline Extensions

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-15 22:47 GMT+01:00 fly : > The major advantage about backward/forward is the editor support once > the way direction is reversed. > > +1, also this way you give information about the direction of flow relative to the osm way, while flow_direction=oneway doesn't imply any specific directio

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
Thank you Althio, 2014-11-17 12:10 GMT+01:00 althio forum : > man_made=street_cabinet > is implicitly rejecting 'countryside cabinet' or cabinets in > motorways, parks, fields, train stations, airports and so on. > Yeah I would rather agree. We also have the highway=* tag to describe one and eac

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-14 5:03 GMT+01:00 johnw : > A couple more landuse cases were added. I’m going to ask now if it is a > good idea to specifically exclude Police/fire/safety and give them their > own landuse(s). this can be very different from one country to another. E.g. in Italy there are lots of diffe

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
2014-11-17 13:19 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > FWIW, the term "man_made=street_cabinet" has just been approved by almost > unanimous voting. Why does this discussion start now? > Because of some comments written lately on friday evening when the vote was about to end. The only one opposi

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-14 12:09 GMT+01:00 Pieren : > I don't think we need a civic subkey in landuse. When I see the > growing list, it will finally generate very small landuse polygons in > OSM. This is not the intend of the OSM "landuse". > there is no indication of this, the wiki remains very generic and do

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Tom Pfeifer
street_cabinet=waste had already been discussed during the proposal process, but not yet added during the voting. the value 'waste' is more consistent with existing amenity tagging than refuse or garbage. I have added it to categories and examples to the wiki, feel free to add a picture, some e

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-17 13:53 GMT+01:00 Tom Pfeifer : > the value 'waste' is more consistent with existing amenity tagging than > refuse or garbage. > the objects that have been brought up as examples have been of private nature, i.e. not an amenity for osm terms. I wouldn't include private waste bin protec

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 17/11/2014 13:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: man_made=street_cabinet is implicitly rejecting 'countryside cabinet' or cabinets in motorways, parks, fields, train stations, airports and so on. IMHO it is not. Don't read this "overliterally". Indeed - like 'Openstreetmap' which,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tagging for complex junctions

2014-11-17 Thread Lukas Sommer
We have finally 12 votes: 11 times “yes” and 1 time “no”. I think this could be considered as approved … Lukas Lukas Sommer 2014-11-02 7:57 GMT+00:00 Lukas Sommer : > Hello. > > After commenting period, now is starting the voting for the junction > (only) tagging at > https://wiki.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
Martin, Jean-Marc, I appreciate the feedback. You are voicing some good elements. I am not totally convinced yet about generic vs specific. Fairly generic tag like 'man_made=cabinet' sounds very sensible as first level. Furthermore I do feel other proposal I have seen like 'street_' and 'technical_

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 17/11/2014 15:14, althio forum wrote: Martin, Jean-Marc, I appreciate the feedback. You are voicing some good elements. I am not totally convinced yet about generic vs specific. Fairly generic tag like 'man_made=cabinet' sounds very sensible as first level. Furthermore I do feel other proposal

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-17 15:43 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier : > One may have suspected a French telco etymological bias as we call those > cabinets 'armoires de rue' - literally 'street cabinet'... But as the > proposal's page history and its approval signatures show, the consensus is > actually international. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread althio forum
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > I agree with your arguments - my personal choice would be technical_cabinet. > I nevertheless chose to approve the proposal because I considered this issue > minor compared > to all the work that went in organizing the scheme... > expe

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread Andreas Labres
On 17.11.14 16:18, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > yes, street cabinet is the actual name for this kind of thing, so using this > as tag seems best to describe what this proposal aims to describe. Simply > search for "street cabinet" in google (or another image search engine) then > research images

Re: [Tagging] pipeline flow direction; was: Feature Proposal - RFC - Pipeline Extensions

2014-11-17 Thread Rainer Fügenstein
MK> +1, also this way you give information about the direction of flow relative MK> to the osm way, while flow_direction=oneway doesn't imply any specific MK> direction, it only states that the direction is not reversible. proposal updated in this regard. __

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-11-17 Thread Kotya Karapetyan
What about introducing a name space: water_source:potable=designated | mineral | heilwasser (I failed to find a good English-language analogue, could someone help please?) water_source:sparkling=yes | no | unknown water_source:nonpotable=compromised | designated In principle, details regarding the

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-11-17 Thread johnw
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > 2014-11-14 5:03 GMT+01:00 johnw mailto:jo...@mac.com>>: > A couple more landuse cases were added. I’m going to ask now if it is a good > idea to specifically exclude Police/fire/safety and give them their own > landuse(s). >

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Street cabinet - Voting

2014-11-17 Thread johnw
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > On 17/11/2014 15:14, althio forum wrote: > > I may have been stretching the 'Openstreetmap' case a bit. We were discussing how to properly tag kilns, with their method of firing and how many chimneys they have, so I don’t think you

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

2014-11-17 Thread johnw
> On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > there will be more people with even more ideas and classification needs. > Therefor the foo=bar, bar=x way of subtyping, which implies there is only one > kind of subtyping, should generally be deprecated in favor of more verbose