Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 28.08.2014 um 23:02 schrieb Xavier Noria: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Peter Wendorff > wrote: > >> No, it isn't. >> The interpretation of the database, and the meaning, restricted to the >> fact of the streets oneway-ness is the same, but no value at all does >> not say "this is no one

Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-29 Thread Xavier Noria
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote: > +0.5, as UIs are decoupled from the data in OSM. You may write your own > editor with a completely different UI, even one that doesn't know about > oneway at all, so reasoning on UI preferences may help to get the best > default, but not to

Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-29 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.08.2014 um 09:58 schrieb Xavier Noria: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Wendorff > wrote: > >> +0.5, as UIs are decoupled from the data in OSM. You may write your own >> editor with a completely different UI, even one that doesn't know about >> oneway at all, so reasoning on UI pref

[Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the Database. In TagInfo I found this variants: contact:google+ contact:google_plus link:google_plus contact:google Google + Google Plus Google+ contact:googleplus contact:google + GooglePlus googleplus contatc:google+ google

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Éric Gillet
It can be done easily with JOSM, you just need to download all nodes/ways/relations, select them all and rename the offending tags in one go. On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the > Database. In

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Am 29.08.2014 um 11:48 schrieb Éric Gillet: > It can be done easily with JOSM, you just need to download all > nodes/ways/relations, select them all and rename the offending tags in > one go. I know, how to do it: 1. Download via Overpass 2. Open the file in JOSM 3. Change the keys But I have to

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andy Mabbett
This all seems sensible, with the exception that I can only ever recall seeing the former referred to as "Google +", and I think most people will use the "+" sign. On Aug 29, 2014 10:39 AM, "Andreas Neumann" wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the >

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Goss
I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the Database. I think that's usually fine. I would like to change the Keys in "contact:google_plus" change them in "contact:facebook" I'm not in support of this though. contact: is not commonly used and I don't think is has

Re: [Tagging] default value for "oneway"

2014-08-29 Thread ael
To suggest that we now have to include every possible tag with an explicit value on every element is just ridiculous: the logical consequence of an explicit oneway on all ways. Where there really is a need to remove ambiguity, surely something like an area or perhaps relation (less obvious to the

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
The problem is the "+" and the space sign. Both are bad chars for a key. Maybe someone can tell why. [http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/contact%3Agoogle%20%2B] Andreas On 29.08.2014 11:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: > This all seems sensible, with the exception that I can only ever recall > seein

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread John Packer
The character plus (+) is an unusual character for keys indeed. I believe it's because people usually say x=y + a=b when talking about a combination of two tags. 2014-08-29 11:36 GMT-03:00 Andreas Neumann : > The problem is the "+" and the space sign. Both are bad chars for a key. > > Maybe some

[Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Kam, Kristen
Good Day, I am writing to receive additional clarity with regards to using the 'destination%' tag in the context of signposts. For a while now, the status quo was to use the 'exit_to' tag on the node where the signpost would be (bifurcation points typically) when representing a signpost locat

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Steve Doerr
I note that the domain name for Google+ is plus.google.com, so there is no objection to substituting 'plus' for '+' in some way. Steve On 29/08/2014 15:36, Andreas Neumann wrote: The problem is the "+" and the space sign. Both are bad chars for a key. Maybe someone can tell why. [http://tagi

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, I disagree. Example: https://plus.google.com/+ConciergeCleanersCo is the same like https://google.com/+ConciergeCleanersCo And there are a lot of other URL-schema. Andreas On 29.08.2014 19:49, Steve Doerr wrote: > I note that the domain name for Google+ is plus.google.com, so there is > no

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Neumann
On 29.08.2014 12:44, Andreas Goss wrote: >> I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the >> Database. > > I think that's usually fine. > >> I would like to change the Keys in "contact:google_plus" >> change them in "contact:facebook" > > I'm not in support of this thoug

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Steve Doerr
That's as may be. But the widget Google gives you to switch between their various apps uses a URL beginning https://plus.google.com to switch to Google+. At least, it does for me. Steve On 29/08/2014 19:07, Andreas Neumann wrote: Hi, I disagree. Example: https://plus.google.com/+ConciergeCle

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Kam, Kristen wrote: > For a while now, the status quo was to use the 'exit_to' tag on the node > where the signpost would be (bifurcation points typically) when > representing a signpost location and information. This tag is being > deprecated (hence this wiki p

Re: [Tagging] cobblestone, sett and surface=*

2014-08-29 Thread Christopher Hoess
FWIW, in my area (northeastern US), "sett" is referred to as "Belgian block", but most people would indiscriminately refer to both surfaces as "cobblestone". -- Chris Hoess On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > How one should tag surfaces: > - paved with equally sized, f

[Tagging] aeroway=taxiway as area

2014-08-29 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Why the value description table of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dtaxiway states that aeroway=taxiway should not be used on areas? Is there a valid point for this? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openst

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=taxiway as area

2014-08-29 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 08/29/2014 10:38 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Why the value description table of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dtaxiway states that aeroway=taxiway should not be used on areas? Is there a valid point for this ? If you are going to perform airport routing (now that woul

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common

2014-08-29 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 08/28/2014 10:49 AM, Dave F. wrote: I've just looked up common on taginfo & I'm very surprised to see virtually all are tagged with leisure= (39348). If I ever used it (& I'm unsure I have) I would have used landuse= (123). I genuinely believe this is an example of where it being the majorit

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Johan C
I'm using the motorway_junction node on exits, with the ref and the name as tags. Reasons: it has been done since the early days of OSM, and it looks nice on Mapnik. I'm also using the motorway_junction up to four times per interchange to have the name of the interchange appear on Mapnik (example:

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 29.08.2014 20:09, Andreas Neumann wrote: > I don't want to change the addr:-, website-, phone-, fax- or > email-key!!! I never said it. But we have to look at these to decide whether it's better to move towards the contact namespace as a whole or move away from it. It makes little sense to move

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 29.08.2014 21:16, Paul Johnson wrote: > Destinations are supposed to be relations, and the members are pretty > clear. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign#Members I believe Kristen was talking about Key:destination, which is what should replace exit_to. There are no re

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

2014-08-29 Thread Andreas Goss
I don't want to change the addr:-, website-, phone-, fax- or email-key!!! I never said it. As Tobias pointed out, we have to look at the bigger pucture. Why use contact: here, when it's not used by the majority anywhere else. The contact-namespace associate, that the defined facebook- or goo

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Johan C wrote: > For motorways it's not necessary to know the location of the signposts, > since every split is signposted (except for some very few exceptions > maybe). > There have been some rather notorious examples where this has not always been the case. The

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 29.08.2014 21:16, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Destinations are supposed to be relations, and the members are pretty > > clear. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign#Members > > I believe Kristen was talking about Key:d

Re: [Tagging] key:destination Signpost question

2014-08-29 Thread Lukas Sommer
> the tag > is used directly (e.g. destination=Exampletown) on the ways leading away > from a bifurcation, and/or in the form of destination:lanes (e.g. > destination:lanes=Exampletown| > Foobarcity) on the way leading towards the > bifurcation. Thanks for this explication! I was always in doubt