Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread ael
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:22:00AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > or tag it with place=hamlet, village or neighbourhood (not sure about > the size of these trailer parks and if they're isolated or part of a > settlement)? Thanks for all the replies. In the UK context, none of these seem entir

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread Chris Hill
On 18/11/12 17:24, ael wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:22:00AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: or tag it with place=hamlet, village or neighbourhood (not sure about the size of these trailer parks and if they're isolated or part of a settlement)? Thanks for all the replies. In the UK contex

[Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Johan C
On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_junction you can find the following description on the exit_to tag. 'exit_to =* should be used to detail the destinations where the junction exits to—for example, if signage states a road le

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 19:08 +0100, Johan C wrote: > On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_junction > you can find the following description on the exit_to tag. > 'exit_to=* should be used to detail the destinations where the > junction exits to—for example, if signage states

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread malenki
Johan C wrote on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:08:21 +0100: >[...] >Unfortunately, exit_to is not documented. The destination in my >opinion has same purpose as exit_to, but is a better choice because >you can use it on both outgoing parts of the Y-branch and because you >can use in in conjunction with dest

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Colin Smale
Johan, I agree with your statement that "destination" is much more universal than "exit_to". I would prefer to see "destination" brought into wider use and "exit_to" deprecated. I only use "destination", which I use very frequently to help make routing instructions (not: routing calculations -

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 20:20 +0100, malenki wrote: > > What is the use of tagging some examples where one road connects to > when there is a system-inherent focus on finding such connections > automagically (this one is called "Routing")? > > I'd like to have examples, please I found this one by

[Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-18 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi all, Following up on an action from SotM-PDX, I've posted a proposal for expanded tagging for addresses, primarily in the US (though it may have application in other countries). The intent of the tags is to 1) improve the description of US addresses, and 2) provide greater flexibility for local

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Colin Smale
Phil, there's a difference between routing calculation (which neither knows nor cares about road names, numbers, signposts etc) and how the result of the calculation is presented to the user. Then you need to relate the nodes/edges in the routing graph back to the real world. The value in this

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread malenki
Colin Smale wrote on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:26:51 +0100: >Phil, there's a difference between routing calculation (which neither >knows nor cares about road names, numbers, signposts etc) and how the >result of the calculation is presented to the user. Then you need to >relate the nodes/edges in th

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 18.11.2012 19:08, Johan C wrote: > Unfortunately, exit_to is not documented. The destination in my opinion > has same purpose as exit_to, but is a better choice because you can use > it on both outgoing parts of the Y-branch and because you can use in in > conjunction with destination:lanes. Som

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 21:26 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > Phil, there's a difference between routing calculation (which neither > knows nor cares about road names, numbers, signposts etc) and how the > result of the calculation is presented to the user. Then you need to > relate the nodes/edges in

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 18.11.2012 21:16, Steven Johnson wrote: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/UnitedStates I've looked through your slides and the proposal, but I do not yet understand why this solution is necessary. One of your examples is "6345 W. Euclid AV", which you would t

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread Bill Ricker
> > Many UK static caravan sites are not strictly residential, they have a > planning clause prohibiting year-round occupation, so they are really > recreational. I don't think hamlet is appropriate for a caravan site at all. In the US, we have such recreational sites, variously called campground

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Mike N
>> 4. is it clear for you when to use exit_to and when to use >> destination? > >Yes: Don't use exit_to anymore Where was everyone a year or 2 ago when exit_to came into being? Count| Tag 22 516 |exit_to On 11/18/2012 3:59 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: Thats the point I am making, t

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Colin Smale
On 18/11/2012 21:59, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 21:26 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: Phil, there's a difference between routing calculation (which neither knows nor cares about road names, numbers, signposts etc) and how the result of the calculation is presented to the user. Then you

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Paul Johnson
What about relations? I seem to recall relations exist for this. On Nov 18, 2012 2:12 PM, "Colin Smale" wrote: > Johan, I agree with your statement that "destination" is much more > universal than "exit_to". I would prefer to see "destination" brought into > wider use and "exit_to" deprecated.

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > or tag it with place=hamlet, village or neighbourhood (not sure about > the size of these trailer parks and if they're isolated or part of a > settlement)? > > cheers, > Martin > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread Bill Ricker
Furthermore, in the US, the word 'caravan' is not used for house-trailers. Finding a tagging that works both countries may be suboptimal for both. Divided by a common language, etc. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@

Re: [Tagging] Fixed caravan site

2012-11-18 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 18 November 2012 17:24, ael wrote: > Thanks for all the replies. In the UK context, none of these seem > entirely satisfactory. landuse=residential is certainly true, but these > caravan parks are rather distinctive, not common, and IMHO need a > distinctive tag. The hamlet tag would only be a

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-18 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/11/18 Johan C : > 1. Have you ever used exit_to? Nope > 2. Have you ever used destination? Yes. > 3. are you willing to document exit_to? Yes (see below) > 4. is it clear for you when to use exit_to and when to use destination? Yes: don't use exit_to. > 5. do you have any problems (and